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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Can we say SS3 toei Goku is at least 50^3 multiplier?

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Consider base Gotenks ( toei) is => Majin Vegeta, can transform into SS1 and then becomes that strong in base after HTC training.

Goku whilst SS3 could ( barely) keep up with Buutenks speed, meaning he at least was within the realm of Ultimate Gohan at that time while his power in other forms remained ( Base/ SS1/SS2) at Majin Vegeta fight levels.

Basically

Goku:1
SS1 Goku 50x
SS2 Majin Vegeta/ Goku >50x
Gotenks Base >50x
SS1 Gotenks> 2500x


Base Gotenks>2500x
SS1 Gotenks >>125,000x
Super Buu >>125,000x
Buutenks >>>125,000x
 
The episode title says it. And its corroborated by Goku effortlessly overpowering Kid Buu in the Spirit Bomb struggle
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The episode title says it. And its corroborated by Goku effortlessly overpowering Kid Buu in the Spirit Bomb struggle
thats more in line added with the spirit bomb. It wouldn’t make sense that SSJ3 was needed to take on Buu then all of a sudden getting his stamina back he can take on Kid Buu as a SSJ?

its like when Goku didn’t stand a chance against Jordan as SSB but when he used the Spirit Bomb Jiren had actually used a bit more power then he previously did. People forget that the Spirit Bomb is also powers from others
 
thats more in line added with the spirit bomb. It wouldn’t make sense that SSJ3 was needed to take on Buu then all of a sudden getting his stamina back he can take on Kid Buu as a SSJ?

its like when Goku didn’t stand a chance against Jordan as SSB but when he used the Spirit Bomb Jiren had actually used a bit more power then he previously did. People forget that the Spirit Bomb is also powers from others
He still effortlessly overpowered him in the struggle. That much is undeniable

Also that's an argument from incredulity considering Toei Saiyans are no strangers to generous power boosts, and at least this one can be explained by the fact that he was revitalized
 
This isn't about the Spirit Bomb's strength but about Goku's for effortlessly forcing it right back to Kid Buu when it was previously hurdling toward him and right in his face. Kid Buu was still trying to push it back but Goku as a Super Saiyan effortlessly kept it going
 
Then why would he use a spirit bomb if he could've just gone SSJ to whoop Kid buu he had enough to maintain SSJ considering he literally perfected it.
Again, he was out of stamina before that. Dende made a wish to Porunga to revitalize Goku, which seemed to make him stronger, considering he's called the strongest as a Super Saiyan
 
Buu was already struggling to hold Spirit Bomb since it was a perfect counter against him since kid buu was pure evil. After getting revitalized, he even poured his own energy into it, which was too much for Buu to handle.
 
since the dragon ball universe is now infinite in size, should that make the space thats holding all the universes hypothetically be large enough to hold an infinite amount of them? Hence 2-A? The neutral space should also be infinite.
 
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Another argument would be zenos realm, i dont think its very far fetched to assume that its bigger than the living universe which is also infinite in size, we even see countless stars and galaxies in the background, that realm is able to dwarf an entire macrocosm, so it should be able to hold an infinite amount of them if there were that many.
 
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