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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Can a saiyan regenerate his tail after it is cut or torn? I find something like Saiyans don't need their tails anymore when they find tails annoying or they prefer to fight without relying on their Great Ape form.
 
SwordLegendz01 said:
Where did this come from? I also discovered that in the Daizenshuu on the Saiyan Characteristics that it is not specialized after childhood the tail no longer regenerates.
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I assumed it was the case because we never see Saiyan tails regenerate after a certain point

Then again Gohan had A LOT of time for a third tail regeneration so I suppose Toriyama simply forgot

He most definitely did for Goten and Trunks
 
Which is really stupid, as is Saiyans somehow not being able to regenerate their bodies in general considering how the Great Ape transformation shows them generating entire 50 foot bodies of flesh, regenerating their humanoid bodies should logically be trivial in comparison

Even for a lazy writer like Toriyama the way Great Ape was underused and basically discarded completely in Z is truly criminal
 
Sir_Marvulous said:
This isn't Attack on Titan they're not Titan Shifters lol

their bodies turn into the Great Ape
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That doesn't make it any better, being able to grow their normal bodies into literal 50 feet bodies, but somehow can't grow few feet body parts in comparison. They're generating way more flesh and blood with the Great Ape than what they'd need to regenerate
 
Bonus Corner: Dragon Ball and Sensei in Q&A format! Unexpected secrets will also be revealed!?

Is it true that Goku’s tail was a nuisance?!
It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs).
 
BestMGQScalerEver said:
Isn't it a literal plot point that they can block their tails from growing via certain techniques.
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True, in my opinion, they feel like they don't need a tail anymore when they don't want to rely on their great ape form anymore and focus on their base in order to get stronger. But shouldn't they have (High-Low) regeneration?
 
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Quasar002 said:
If I understood correctly, piccolo says that the power of the gamma is at the level of goku and vegeta (which I imagine is the blue arc form moro). Would that make piccolo relative in power to goku blue from the moro bow? Seeing as he was able to land several gamma strikes, and have a smooth fight even. If piccolo's base form is already at that level, I just want to see Orange.
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I don't think so. Piccolo states it would be difficult to deal with them without Goku and Vegeta around. Implying defeating Moro Arc SSB Goku/Vegeta is something very difficult for him to do, even with the help of others on Earth.
 
GT 2-C scaling chain ( half complete with alt interpretations)

Buuhan: 1
Kid Buu > 1
Base GT Goku ( Black star) : 1
SS1 Goku : 50
Rildo Base / Sigma/ Meta : 1 / ~50 / > 50
Baby ( depending on version of Rildo he scales to ) : 1 or 50
SS1 Goten 50 or 2500
SS1 Gohan 2500 or 125000
SS1 Goku 125,000 or 6,250,000
Golden Ape Goku / SS4 1,250,000 or 62,500,000

Super 17

Majuub 125,000 or 6,250,000
Base Gohan KHH ~ Majuub
SS1 Gohan 6,250,000 or 312,250,000
SS1 Goku > SS1 Gohan
SS4 Goku : 62,500,000 or 3,122,500,000
 
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It would be cool to know who created Zeno and Zalama.

Maybe there used to be a legit Omnipotent being but for whatever reasons he has divided his power into two; absolute destruction (Zeno familiy) and creation (Zalama familiy)

Or maybe he was as crazy as Beyonder who used to be an omnipotent being but he was so bored with reality, for this reason he "punched" himself back to a fodder tier.

Who knows ... ;)
 
Jinsama said:
It would be cool to know who created Zeno and Zalama.

Maybe there used to be a legit Omnipotent being but for whatever reasons he has divided his power into two; absolute destruction (Zeno familiy) and creation (Zalama familiy)

Or maybe he was as crazy as Beyonder who used to be an omnipotent being but he was so bored with reality, for this reason he "punched" himself back to a fodder tier.

Who knows ... ;)
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Meet Tori-Bot and lazy at the same time lol
 
Greenshifter said:
In Heroes he's literally called omnipotent too. Yet CHAD Hearts still tries to kill him.
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Ironically Heroes also says Gogeta can one day be a threat to him (or is a threat, I forget), and both Fu and Goku (by proxy) reach a level akin to Zeno via the Universe Tree.
 
Tyranno223 said:
Ironically Heroes also says Gogeta can one day be a threat to him (or is a threat, I forget), and both Fu and Goku (by proxy) reach a level akin to Zeno via the Universe Tree.
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Yeah, most people just say Hearts is delusional, but I simp for Hearts so I believe him.
 
I just made a GT v DBS Goku thread xd

Anyways shouldn't RoF arc and Baby arc Goku be at almost the exact same starting point going by how above they scale to their 2-C feats (SSG and Buuhan respectively) we may start from there. And they are comparable until UIS1 Goku since that one just scales to 6 universes so he automatically solos GT

EDIT: There are post regarding the scaling chains for both series including the multipliers, we'll probably need those to see.
 
Dragon Ball Heros really needs Conceptual Manip and abstract existence manip. Like I hope the series makes that a thing because Heros character are losing matches they could have won if they had conceptual manip or were able to affect abstract concepts
 
It seems that even in the Manga the Gamma's are around Goku and Vegeta level :
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XXBenShapiroXx said:
Dragon Ball Heros really needs Conceptual Manip and abstract existence manip. Like I hope the series makes that a thing because Heros character are losing matches they could have won if they had conceptual manip or were able to affect abstract concepts
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what matches have been lost?
 
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