- 641
- 461
Can a saiyan regenerate his tail after it is cut or torn? I find something like Saiyans don't need their tails anymore when they find tails annoying or they prefer to fight without relying on their Great Ape form.
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
- Thread starter Warren_Valion
- Start date
- 6,827
- 6,711
Severed tails no longer regenerate after childhood
- 641
- 461
Where did this come from? I also discovered that in the Daizenshuu on the Saiyan Characteristics that it is not specialized after childhood the tail no longer regenerates.
- 6,827
- 6,711
I assumed it was the case because we never see Saiyan tails regenerate after a certain point
Then again Gohan had A LOT of time for a third tail regeneration so I suppose Toriyama simply forgot
He most definitely did for Goten and Trunks
- 957
- 1,300
Which is really stupid, as is Saiyans somehow not being able to regenerate their bodies in general considering how the Great Ape transformation shows them generating entire 50 foot bodies of flesh, regenerating their humanoid bodies should logically be trivial in comparison
Even for a lazy writer like Toriyama the way Great Ape was underused and basically discarded completely in Z is truly criminal
Even for a lazy writer like Toriyama the way Great Ape was underused and basically discarded completely in Z is truly criminal
- 6,827
- 6,711
This isn't Attack on Titan they're not Titan Shifters lol
their bodies turn into the Great Ape
- 641
- 461
If I remember in the interview Toriyama made a scene where they had to remove their tails because he found it bothersome to draw the tails and again I found this from DBZ Kakarot
- 957
- 1,300
That doesn't make it any better, being able to grow their normal bodies into literal 50 feet bodies, but somehow can't grow few feet body parts in comparison. They're generating way more flesh and blood with the Great Ape than what they'd need to regenerate
- 5,344
- 6,088
Isn't it a literal plot point that they can block their tails from growing via certain techniques.
- 641
- 461
Bonus Corner: Dragon Ball and Sensei in Q&A format! Unexpected secrets will also be revealed!?
Is it true that Goku’s tail was a nuisance?!
It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs).
Is it true that Goku’s tail was a nuisance?!
It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs).
- 957
- 1,300
<Goten and Trunks just arbitrarily don't even have tails and the explanation given is I forgot
Toriyama moment
Toriyama moment
- 641
- 461
True, in my opinion, they feel like they don't need a tail anymore when they don't want to rely on their great ape form anymore and focus on their base in order to get stronger. But shouldn't they have (High-Low) regeneration?
Last edited:
- 641
- 461
Thinking about the fate of Bardock's tail in the DBS Manga from the flashback of his fight with Gas.
- 3,298
- 2,639
I don't think so. Piccolo states it would be difficult to deal with them without Goku and Vegeta around. Implying defeating Moro Arc SSB Goku/Vegeta is something very difficult for him to do, even with the help of others on Earth.
- 821
- 566
GT 2-C scaling chain ( half complete with alt interpretations)
Buuhan: 1
Kid Buu > 1
Base GT Goku ( Black star) : 1
SS1 Goku : 50
Rildo Base / Sigma/ Meta : 1 / ~50 / > 50
Baby ( depending on version of Rildo he scales to ) : 1 or 50
SS1 Goten 50 or 2500
SS1 Gohan 2500 or 125000
SS1 Goku 125,000 or 6,250,000
Golden Ape Goku / SS4 1,250,000 or 62,500,000
Super 17
Majuub 125,000 or 6,250,000
Base Gohan KHH ~ Majuub
SS1 Gohan 6,250,000 or 312,250,000
SS1 Goku > SS1 Gohan
SS4 Goku : 62,500,000 or 3,122,500,000
Buuhan: 1
Kid Buu > 1
Base GT Goku ( Black star) : 1
SS1 Goku : 50
Rildo Base / Sigma/ Meta : 1 / ~50 / > 50
Baby ( depending on version of Rildo he scales to ) : 1 or 50
SS1 Goten 50 or 2500
SS1 Gohan 2500 or 125000
SS1 Goku 125,000 or 6,250,000
Golden Ape Goku / SS4 1,250,000 or 62,500,000
Super 17
Majuub 125,000 or 6,250,000
Base Gohan KHH ~ Majuub
SS1 Gohan 6,250,000 or 312,250,000
SS1 Goku > SS1 Gohan
SS4 Goku : 62,500,000 or 3,122,500,000
Last edited:
- 328
- 382
It would be cool to know who created Zeno and Zalama.
Maybe there used to be a legit Omnipotent being but for whatever reasons he has divided his power into two; absolute destruction (Zeno familiy) and creation (Zalama familiy)
Or maybe he was as crazy as Beyonder who used to be an omnipotent being but he was so bored with reality, for this reason he "punched" himself back to a fodder tier.
Who knows ...
Maybe there used to be a legit Omnipotent being but for whatever reasons he has divided his power into two; absolute destruction (Zeno familiy) and creation (Zalama familiy)
Or maybe he was as crazy as Beyonder who used to be an omnipotent being but he was so bored with reality, for this reason he "punched" himself back to a fodder tier.
Who knows ...
- 12,191
- 6,132
Meet Tori-Bot and lazy at the same time lolIt would be cool to know who created Zeno and Zalama.
Maybe there used to be a legit Omnipotent being but for whatever reasons he has divided his power into two; absolute destruction (Zeno familiy) and creation (Zalama familiy)
Or maybe he was as crazy as Beyonder who used to be an omnipotent being but he was so bored with reality, for this reason he "punched" himself back to a fodder tier.
Who knows ...
Oliver_de_jesus
He/Him- 24,729
- 17,762
I'm not sure if that has ever been said or not
- 328
- 382
- 10,398
- 4,564
In Heroes he's literally called omnipotent too. Yet CHAD Hearts still tries to kill him.
- 1,615
- 451
Everything to be the Elden Lord
- 3,484
- 3,322
Ironically Heroes also says Gogeta can one day be a threat to him (or is a threat, I forget), and both Fu and Goku (by proxy) reach a level akin to Zeno via the Universe Tree.
- 10,398
- 4,564
Yeah, most people just say Hearts is delusional,
- 6,429
- 2,440
what if it’s a similar case to Shenron not being able to do anything to nappa tho?
- 10,398
- 4,564
Wow lol, that’s gotta be a record on getting a controversial thread closed.
- 3,298
- 2,639
How will GT and DBS Manga 2-Cs compare? Are they both 3 2-C? If so, how far do the two of them scale into 2-C?
- 1,997
- 634
I just made a GT v DBS Goku thread xd
Anyways shouldn't RoF arc and Baby arc Goku be at almost the exact same starting point going by how above they scale to their 2-C feats (SSG and Buuhan respectively) we may start from there. And they are comparable until UIS1 Goku since that one just scales to 6 universes so he automatically solos GT
EDIT: There are post regarding the scaling chains for both series including the multipliers, we'll probably need those to see.
Anyways shouldn't RoF arc and Baby arc Goku be at almost the exact same starting point going by how above they scale to their 2-C feats (SSG and Buuhan respectively) we may start from there. And they are comparable until UIS1 Goku since that one just scales to 6 universes so he automatically solos GT
EDIT: There are post regarding the scaling chains for both series including the multipliers, we'll probably need those to see.
- 2,901
- 3,967
Dragon Ball Heros really needs Conceptual Manip and abstract existence manip. Like I hope the series makes that a thing because Heros character are losing matches they could have won if they had conceptual manip or were able to affect abstract concepts
- 10,398
- 4,564
- 6,429
- 2,440
I feel like it wouldn’t mesh well with how the characters typically fight, but I see what you mean
- 2,901
- 3,967
Fine then, keep your secrets
- 3,566
- 879
It seems that even in the Manga the Gamma's are around Goku and Vegeta level :
- 10,398
- 4,564
It's not really a secret, the arguments are there, we just need to reinstate them.
- 2,714
- 3,501
what matches have been lost?
- 3,566
- 879
Still can't beat GER
- 10,398
- 4,564
I'll debate you on Kid Goku vs GER.
- 3,566
- 879
- 12,191
- 6,132
People here told me that GER does absolutely nothing against Xeno Goku and Giorno dies because of not having resurrection
Similar threads
