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Goku has two layers of resistance on top of the fact that he'll be infinite speedDepends, if th ones he goes against manages to Time Stop Infinite-immeasurable characters then it will still work.
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Goku has two layers of resistance on top of the fact that he'll be infinite speedDepends, if th ones he goes against manages to Time Stop Infinite-immeasurable characters then it will still work.
Yet in the Moro arc vegeta says they can't breathe in spaceIn the manga he straight up breathes in the empty void after Zen'O erased future Trunks's timeline
Time Stop does not refute infinite speed, @Planck69 mentioned this in the God Of War thread where kratos is affected by Time StopShit I just realized infinite speed Goku means he can't get got by Time Stop in a speed equal match using his keys that don't already have Time Stop resistance (like the Sans one)
Yet in the Moro arc vegeta says they can't breathe in space
I seriously don't see why the producers decided that that weakness needs to remainYet in the Moro arc vegeta says they can't breathe in space
Then that just means it shouldn't be there at allTime Stop does not refute infinite speed, @Planck69 mentioned this in the God Of War thread where kratos is affected by Time Stop
About them being able to breathe in space maybe that's a lie, Goku in the manga and anime has had several feats of breathing in the vacuum of space, maybe it's a story told by Freeza, so they don't leave the planet (all this to enslave them)Yet in the Moro arc vegeta says they can't breathe in space
So instant teleporation isn't Os teleporation, but just soo fast that even in the eyes of Massively faster than baseline infinite people it appears simply as disappearing and re-appearing?I think what Omega is trying to convey is that Instant Transmission from our perspective isn't 0s teleportation and is only infinite speed because the characters already are
Yes agreed @Planck69 you are not beyond time, so it is possible to function stop time.Then that just means it shouldn't be there at all
YesSo instant teleporation isn't Os teleporation, but just soo fast that even in the eyes of Massively faster than baseline infinite people it appears simply as disappearing and re-appearing?
It is in this case because of infinite speed feats, i am saying that "instant teleportation" is not infinite by defaultSo instant teleporation isn't Os teleporation, but just soo fast that even in the eyes of Massively faster than baseline infinite people it appears simply as disappearing and re-appearing?
This warp space lets them cover infinite distances (as Goku can go from King Kai's planet to the living world and back)Toei depiction of IT has characters entering some sort of Warp space so at least by its own, it’s not infinite speed.
You're thinking of Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Broly shattering space-time by clashingHowever, correct me if wrong, but doesn't that space only comes up in the Broly movie?
No. I am not. We are talking about Toei.You're thinking of Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Broly shattering space-time by clashing
I have never seen anyone bring up anything like that regarding the Toei Broly movieNo. I am not. We are talking about Toei.
I have never seen anyone bring up anything like that regarding the Toei Broly movie
SpittingToei depiction of IT has characters entering some sort of Warp space so at least by its own, it’s not infinite speed.
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Goku during the 10 days leading up to the cell games uses IT and is portrayed as him moving through a different space to reach new namek, coolers movie too but that one might be out of the main toei timeline.This warp space lets them cover infinite distances (as Goku can go from King Kai's planet to the living world and back)
That one is straight up an infinite speed feat.
However, correct me if wrong, but doesn't that space only comes up in the Broly movie?
It's just a plot device so the characters can train and become big strongGod I'm looking back on the while gravity training thing in Z and how stupid it was. I can't believe Goku struggled to even stand in 10x gravity on King Kai's planet when he could push gigantic boulders as a ******* 12 year old . Does Toriyama possess no understanding of how gravity works or did he just not care?
^ ?How is Goku forcing himself to travel to the future treated here?
King Kai's statement about Goku forcing himself into the future during the Hit fight? That seems to be dub-only.How is Goku forcing himself to travel to the future treated here?
Really? I thought i seen subs for it.King Kai's statement about Goku forcing himself into the future during the Hit fight? That seems to be dub-only.
It could make something that way, but not unless Goku and the other Z Fighter's secretly weigh the size of buildings or something does it make sense.I think he thought that 10x gravity was heavier than big rock, it seemed that way TBF.
Goku slacking off in times of peace lolIt could make something that way, but not unless Goku and the other Z Fighter's secretly weigh the size of buildings or something does it make sense.
What was worst was that, in the anime version at least, Goku struggles to lift a ******* APPLE on King Kai's planet. So apparently Start of Z Goku can barely lift a few pounds (if someone asked Toriyama he'd probably say "He was rusty due to 5 years of peace before Raditz").
It's not necessarily wrong, it's just stupid PiS because Toriyama didn't give enough of a **** to make it logical.This made me think the "10x gravity" on King Kai's planet is bullshit and it's actually a lot more.
Tatsu when she dies by a breath of kiIt's because of this ludicrous PiS that people now argue Tatsumaki could neg-diff any one from Z because she scales above Gyoro Gyoro who could make a 300x gravity field lol.