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Goku has two layers of resistance on top of the fact that he'll be infinite speed
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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Spinoirr
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Yet in the Moro arc vegeta says they can't breathe in space
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Time Stop does not refute infinite speed, @Planck69 mentioned this in the God Of War thread where kratos is affected by Time Stop
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I seriously don't see why the producers decided that that weakness needs to remain
Not even at least a workaround for the cast?
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Then that just means it shouldn't be there at all
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About them being able to breathe in space maybe that's a lie, Goku in the manga and anime has had several feats of breathing in the vacuum of space, maybe it's a story told by Freeza, so they don't leave the planet (all this to enslave them)
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So instant teleporation isn't Os teleporation, but just soo fast that even in the eyes of Massively faster than baseline infinite people it appears simply as disappearing and re-appearing?
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Yes agreed @Planck69 you are not beyond time, so it is possible to function stop time.
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God I'm looking back on the while gravity training thing in Z and how stupid it was. I can't believe Goku struggled to even stand in 10x gravity on King Kai's planet when he could push gigantic boulders as a ******* 12 year old 
. Does Toriyama possess no understanding of how gravity works or did he just not care?
. Does Toriyama possess no understanding of how gravity works or did he just not care?
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It is in this case because of infinite speed feats, i am saying that "instant teleportation" is not infinite by default
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How is Goku forcing himself to travel to the future treated here?
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Toei depiction of IT has characters entering some sort of Warp space so at least by its own, it’s not infinite speed.
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This warp space lets them cover infinite distances (as Goku can go from King Kai's planet to the living world and back)
That one is straight up an infinite speed feat.
However, correct me if wrong, but doesn't that space only comes up in the Broly movie?
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You're thinking of Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Broly shattering space-time by clashing
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No. I am not. We are talking about Toei.
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I have never seen anyone bring up anything like that regarding the Toei Broly movie
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Spitting
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Goku during the 10 days leading up to the cell games uses IT and is portrayed as him moving through a different space to reach new namek, coolers movie too but that one might be out of the main toei timeline.
If he is really entering some sort of alternate space we can’t really say he is crossing infinite distances as he uses IT, and it being infinite would be because Goku already had infinite speed himself to supplement it.
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It's just a plot device so the characters can train and become big strongGod I'm looking back on the while gravity training thing in Z and how stupid it was. I can't believe Goku struggled to even stand in 10x gravity on King Kai's planet when he could push gigantic boulders as a ******* 12 year old
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King Kai's statement about Goku forcing himself into the future during the Hit fight? That seems to be dub-only.
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Really? I thought i seen subs for it.
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It could make something that way, but not unless Goku and the other Z Fighter's secretly weigh the size of buildings or something does it make sense.
What was worst was that, in the anime version at least, Goku struggles to lift a ******* APPLE on King Kai's planet. So apparently Start of Z Goku can barely lift a few pounds (if someone asked Toriyama he'd probably say "He was rusty due to 5 years of peace before Raditz").
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Goku slacking off in times of peace lol
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OG DB Kid Goku has a K class LS feat back in OG DB. Pushing a 300 ton rock with a calc'd LS of about 174 tons. Or 1744288.666 Newtons. The average apple weighs around 1 Newton. Assuming Goku's LS doesn't change until the Saiyan Saga, King Kai's planet gravity is over 1744288X of earth.
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It's not necessarily wrong, it's just stupid PiS because Toriyama didn't give enough of a **** to make it logical.
Let's not forget that baby Goku when his power level was ******* 2 was doing just fine on Planet Vegeta where gravity was 10x. So according to canon Dragon Ball, Goku as an infant baby had higher lifting strength than Goku at the start of Z.
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It's because of this ludicrous PiS that people now argue Tatsumaki could neg-diff any one from Z because she scales above Gyoro Gyoro who could make a 300x gravity field lol.
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Tatsu when she dies by a breath of ki
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I'm imagining a meme of Patrick talking to the villain from Spongebob about his wallet, but Toriyama is Patrick and the villain is just someone with common sense.
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