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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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MUI doesn't use God Ki?
Oliver_de_jesus
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piccolo could feel the UI goku in his battle against Kefla iirc
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Or that could just be a plot hole
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....no I meant im waiting for it to happen
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Yo, why does Goku have, "Limited Social Influencing (When he fought Kid Buu, he was able to convinced people across Universe 7 to give him his energy to perform the Spirit Bomb. Although, it is unknown if everyone did give out their energy)"
When people actively told him to go **** himself? It was Mr. Satan who inspired the people to give their energy, not Goku.
Also, shouldn't the Spirit Bomb have Purification as one of its abilities?
When people actively told him to go **** himself? It was Mr. Satan who inspired the people to give their energy, not Goku.
Also, shouldn't the Spirit Bomb have Purification as one of its abilities?
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Yeah he shouldn't have that. GT Goku on the other hand actually did convince people. And probably not, given that it was Yemma who reincarnated Buu into Uub. Goku just disintegrated him.
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Buu showed resistance to the Purification by the fact that he was able to push it back. So I don't think that's a point for or against it.
But IIRC, if you are not pure of heart you can not create a Spirit Bomb, or else the energy will harm/kill the user, and (usually) you wouldn't have the ability to push it back.
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What?
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That reminds me of the Super Android 13 movie, where Goku couldn't maintain the Spirit Bomb as an unmastered Super Saiyan due to it adding malicious intent to his heart.
Obviously that's non canon but it would explain why Goku never used the Spirit Bomb as a Super Saiyan till the Buu saga when he mastered it
Obviously that's non canon but it would explain why Goku never used the Spirit Bomb as a Super Saiyan till the Buu saga when he mastered it
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Social influence because talk no Jutsu.
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Oh my God, we made Talk no Jutsu a real power.
Nullflowerblush
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Maybe it's something like Beerus < UI Goku < UI Beerus.
Nullflowerblush
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Unless I'm missing something from King Kai's explanation, the Spirit Bomb doesn't have any purifying properties, it just requires a being of pure heart to use.
Nullflowerblush
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and then the super anime negged the fact that super saiyan full power doesn't induce malice.
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MUI does use god ki, just like Blue and God.
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Oh...... Um ok?
Nullflowerblush
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Does anyone happen to have Japanese raws of the Super manga (Ch. 4 and 6) or Japanese transcripts of the Super anime (Ep. 12-14, 28, 67)? Or maybe both?
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Why?
Nullflowerblush
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Nefarious deeds.
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Attempting Low 2-C BoG, huh?
Well, good luck.
Well, good luck.
Nullflowerblush
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Again, Good Luck.
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Don't bother.
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[gets popcorn]
Nullflowerblush
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According to the Tiering System rules, rising up in Tier 2 subtiers through multiplication isn't allowed as in, a character twice as powerful as a Low 2-C would still be Low 2-C. I don't see why applying the inverse operation, downgrading Beerus and Champa to Low 2-C based off of a shared 2-C feat, would be allowed.
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It's not allowed because the distance between Low 2-C and 2-C is unquantifiable IIRC, but DBS quantifies it.
Nullflowerblush
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AHA. SO THEY CAN BE UPGRADED BEYOND LOW 2-C.
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Again, take what I am saying with a grain a salt, but I think that is the logic behind their current ratings.
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Tbh who cares? Them being 2-C would only make them fodder. No good hax and no good AP.
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AFAIK piccolo just felt their their heat
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what does this even mean? beerus doesnt have any versions of himself unlike goku who has several transformations
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Through multiplication means that you can't be upgraded "only" through multipliers because the gap is unquantifiable. There needs to be evidence and that is present in DBS. Beerus and Champa can destroy 2 universes combined, so it's not multiplication alone, it's just basic powerscaling from that point on.
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