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Inb4 Beerus secretly trained after the ToP or something
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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100
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DB fans whether its in youtube section or reddit are crying about how the author is still hinting beerus' own power being hidden all this time
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A hypothetical SSB Gogito would be "maybe as strong as Beerus."
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out of all community, DB twitter is the most toxic. Everyone in the platform spamming "beerus is wanked by the author"
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I don't know where this came from but, people saying goku is now angel tier. when did this shit started? I thought angel tiers would be like whis and vados and probably other attendees of GoDs
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Or its just that beerus is a goalposts for goku and vegeta. After reading what beerus said towards cleaning the mess I looked back at the chapter where oracle fish saying goku and vegeta will be beerus' strongest rivals one day. It seems to reflect that in this upcoming chapter about oracle fish own statement awhile back
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For someone to be a goalpost, they have to actually be in someone’s mind as something they want to reach.
Goku doesn’t Have that. He already views a saiyan as superior, and he has made it very clear in the broly movie that his goal is to battle opponents from everywhere around the universe/multiverse.
Beerus is the one who wants a rivalry with the saiyans, so it Is his goal, not Gokus.
Goku doesn’t Have that. He already views a saiyan as superior, and he has made it very clear in the broly movie that his goal is to battle opponents from everywhere around the universe/multiverse.
Beerus is the one who wants a rivalry with the saiyans, so it Is his goal, not Gokus.
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true enough, but I still dont see beerus wanting to have a rivalry between them. Although oracle fish did say goku and vegeta will one day be his strongest rival, on the other hand beerus never sees goku or vegeta as his rival yet showing that he had made a convincing face after oracle fish said the same statement. Goku on the other hand did say that he wants to be as strong as beerus.
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This doesn't make sense.
Goku already stated that 73 Moro was the strongest guy he ever faced and he turned him into a little bitch, and that was MUCH weaker Moro
If Beerus really is capable of stomping Planet Moro, then Goku is simply full of shit and doesn't know anything about Beeru's power.
I keep saying this, but the consistent of writing in DBS simply doesn't exist and Beerus will always remain Goku's superior unless the author finally decides it's time to move on from that plotpoint. No matter how many worthless forms Goku unlocks.
The reason Goku keep getting new forms is simply to sell toys and games, it's not for advancing the narrative in any meaningful anyway.
Goku already stated that 73 Moro was the strongest guy he ever faced and he turned him into a little bitch, and that was MUCH weaker Moro
If Beerus really is capable of stomping Planet Moro, then Goku is simply full of shit and doesn't know anything about Beeru's power.
I keep saying this, but the consistent of writing in DBS simply doesn't exist and Beerus will always remain Goku's superior unless the author finally decides it's time to move on from that plotpoint. No matter how many worthless forms Goku unlocks.
The reason Goku keep getting new forms is simply to sell toys and games, it's not for advancing the narrative in any meaningful anyway.
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Wrong thread for that
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True
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Goku: "Broly you know, you're probably even stronger than Beerus-sama!
Actually thinking about It... maybe not, no, absolutely not, he would totally destroy you in 3 seconds lmao."
Actually thinking about It... maybe not, no, absolutely not, he would totally destroy you in 3 seconds lmao."
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This why I stop caring about the Goku/Broly/Moro/Jiren etc compare to Beerus debates.
I knew they were going to do this with Beerus ever sense the Zamasu fused with the universe.
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I mean, I'm just saying it's possible, not likely.
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I have seen some people saying that Beerus can defeat Moro just because in the chapter he knows that he has just to destroy the crystal on his head. But, even after Whis explained that to Goku, the Saiyan is not really sure he can do It, while Beerus can do it fast, according to him.
"Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis."
We noticed It Toriyama, we really did.
"Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis."
We noticed It Toriyama, we really did.
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At this point, Beerus is a mountain and Goku is a gust of wind.
No matter how hard he sucks and blows, he will never get him to yield.
No matter how hard he sucks and blows, he will never get him to yield.
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I keep saying this, but Goku's new forms and power-ups are worthless in the grand scheme of things and usually only amount to what happen in the middle of the arc.
It's why all the scaling and "maths" are worthless and just brain dead shit the anime does that doesn't mesh up with the narrative, since at this point, the only way the story can give you a sense of progression is through giving the character new "forms
It's why all the scaling and "maths" are worthless and just brain dead shit the anime does that doesn't mesh up with the narrative, since at this point, the only way the story can give you a sense of progression is through giving the character new "forms
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Thats wrong beerus power was never retconed
This was from episode 16/17
Beerus power was the castle thats 1000's to most likely 10,000's ft high up
While full power goku post ssg absorption/ascended and full power vegeta post 6 months training are only the size of a tree thats 10 ft high at best.
Even if you stack ssb or ssb kkx20 its still no where near that level of castle. Even UI wouldn't put you close basing the power gap on whis comparisons scale.
Using whis comparasion scale it is perfectly reasonable and makes sense why goku nor vegeta have yet to surpass beerus
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Not sure if we should use anime stuff for the manga since Anime Jiren is the one heavily supported to be above the GoDs while Manga jiren just has a vague statement.
Not only that but Goku and Vegeta have grown way stronger since that statement was said especially in the T.oP
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You need education on how powerful Goku and Vegeta became since then if that what you think.
This statement was made after BoG, after that Goku raised his power and achieved SSB, making him at least 50 times stronger.
During Universe 6 arc he trained and gained an "unknown" amount of power, while also stacking Kaio-kenx10 on the top of his SSB which made him 10 times ever stronger so that's 500x times what he was during RoF arc
After the Zamasu arc, Goku is shown to be able to fight an even stronger Hit with SSB alone so as low ball he 5000x times what he was in RoF
During the ToP arc, he uses a Kaio-kenx20 on that MUCH stronger version of SSB making him roughly 100,000x times stronger than his RoF self.
After that he unlocks UI Omen, which is AT LEAST twice that so it's 200,000x times
And after that of course he unlocks UI which is at least 2x that of Omen making him roughly 400,000x times stronger than his RoF
I won't even get into Moro arc power-ups since anime didn't adapt it.
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When will you non-beerlievers learn that Beerus is what ever Goku is at +1
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What? C'mon Broly is for sure stronger than Beerus..
while he is sleeping and restrained by Whis
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After looking at this new draft of chapter 66 and the quote that oracle fish said about one day goku and vegeta will be beerus strongest rivals, seems like they are treating beerus stronger than goku. Whether he has UI
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the funny thing is when beerus is asleep he doesnt hold back. :/
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destroying the crystal like meerus did was because meerus was stronger than moro, i dont think anyone weaker than moro could destroy the crystal, goku can but it was stated by whis that he doesnt know if goku can manage to do that, which goku then believes or doubts that if he could do it.
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actually Jiren was also implied to be above gods of destruction via daizenshuu and promotional magazines about the manga arcs of ToP and black arc, they even have blue vegetto from black arc saying he could rival beerus. Even though scaling wise vegetto shouldnt come close to current goku
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I think once DBS anime comes out they will follow the script from the manga most likely for the galactic patrol arc.
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