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Inb4 Beerus secretly trained after the ToP or something
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out of all community, DB twitter is the most toxic. Everyone in the platform spamming "beerus is wanked by the author"
Or its just that beerus is a goalposts for goku and vegeta. After reading what beerus said towards cleaning the mess I looked back at the chapter where oracle fish saying goku and vegeta will be beerus' strongest rivals one day. It seems to reflect that in this upcoming chapter about oracle fish own statement awhile backInb4 Beerus secretly trained after the ToP or something
Wrong thread for thatProbably a dumb question but would Acausality type 4 or 5 give you resistance to Probability manipulation?
TrueWrong thread for that
This why I stop caring about the Goku/Broly/Moro/Jiren etc compare to Beerus debates.It's just that the writers don't want Goku to surpass Beerus yet for some reason. They keep dragging the bar higher and higher.
Goku already stated that 73 Moro was the strongest guy he ever faced and he turned him into a little bitch, and that was MUCH weaker Moro
Thats wrong beerus power was never retconedI keep saying this, but Goku's new forms and power-ups are worthless in the grand scheme of things and usually only amount to what happen in the middle of the arc.
It's why all the scaling and "maths" are worthless and just brain dead shit the anime does that doesn't mesh up with the narrative, since at this point, the only way the story can give you a sense of progression is through giving the character new "forms
Thats wrong beerus power was never retconed
This was from episode 16/17
Beerus power was the castle thats 1000's to most likely 10,000's ft high up
While full power goku post ssg absorption/ascended and full power vegeta post 6 months training are only the size of a tree thats 10 ft high at best.
Even if you stack ssb or ssb kkx20 its still no where near that level of castle. Even UI wouldn't put you close basing the power gap on whis comparisons scale.
Using whis comparasion scale it is perfectly reasonable and makes sense why goku nor vegeta have yet to surpass beerus
Thats wrong beerus power was never retconed
This was from episode 16/17
Beerus power was the castle thats 1000's to most likely 10,000's ft high up
While full power goku post ssg absorption/ascended and full power vegeta post 6 months training are only the size of a tree thats 10 ft high at best.
Even if you stack ssb or ssb kkx20 its still no where near that level of castle. Even UI wouldn't put you close basing the power gap on whis comparisons scale.
Using whis comparasion scale it is perfectly reasonable and makes sense why goku nor vegeta have yet to surpass beerus
What? C'mon Broly is for sure stronger than Beerus..Im just glad everyone stopped *********** jiren about being stronger than beerus.
Also the fact many argued belmoud > beerus too
That shit was soooooo fucken annoying.
Now people just need to stop about broly being stronger than beerus and that would be nice
the funny thing is when beerus is asleep he doesnt hold back. :/What? C'mon Broly is for sure stronger than Beerus..
while he is sleeping and restrained by Whis
destroying the crystal like meerus did was because meerus was stronger than moro, i dont think anyone weaker than moro could destroy the crystal, goku can but it was stated by whis that he doesnt know if goku can manage to do that, which goku then believes or doubts that if he could do it.I have seen some people saying that Beerus can defeat Moro just because in the chapter he knows that he has just to destroy the crystal on his head. But, even after Whis explained that to Goku, the Saiyan is not really sure he can do It, while Beerus can do it fast, according to him.
"Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis."
We noticed It Toriyama, we really did.
actually Jiren was also implied to be above gods of destruction via daizenshuu and promotional magazines about the manga arcs of ToP and black arc, they even have blue vegetto from black arc saying he could rival beerus. Even though scaling wise vegetto shouldnt come close to current gokuNot sure if we should use anime stuff for the manga since Anime Jiren is the one heavily supported to be above the GoDs while Manga jiren just has a vague statement.
Not only that but Goku and Vegeta have grown way stronger since that statement was said especially in the T.oP