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Before anyone says anything about it only being about completed Cell Max well it was stated in the Movie that Cell Max’s body was complete he was only missing mind control.
I can not believe that Toriyama finally said that himself about Piccolo! Really glad. Being on the level or above FP SSJ Broly is really strong.I'll be honest, with Piccolo being stated as about Goku level and Gohan and Cell Max scaling above him, and Cell Max being vaguely scaled around (either above or slightly below) Broly, I think they're all just at Low 2-C now.
True! Ultimate Piccolo & Ultimate Gohan are the "SSB" versions.I'm glad now this isn't a Goku & Vegeta exclusive moment.
Now we have more warriors on par with SSB, and most likely they will be relevant in a future arc.
Yeah, taking into account Power unleashed Piccolo (First form) is as strong as Mystic Gohan, who in DBS is on par with SSB Goku.True! Ultimate Piccolo & Ultimate Gohan are the "SSB" versions.
So now the Ultra forms are UI, UE, Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan.
Before anyone says anything about it only being about completed Cell Max well it was stated in the Movie that Cell Max’s body was complete he was only missing mind control.
Not really. Rusty Mystic Gohan was overpowering Gamma 1 with a slight edge while Gamma 2 was beating "Mystic" Piccolo with moderate difficultyYeah, taking into account Power unleashed Piccolo (First form) is as strong as Mystic Gohan, who in DBS is on par with SSB Goku.
Yah but just going beserk isn't as effective as consciously using your power to full efficacy. So his power output was unquantifiably worse ... I mean Broly goes beserk as well .. that's basically his fighting style and if both use the same "style", the stronger one should win right?But the guy was done being cooked, apart from his mind control
It's a rather specific comment, and as we know from ki in Dragon Ball (True Golden Frieza, etc) the mind makes up an important part of how powerful you are.But the guy was done being cooked, apart from his mind control
True Golden Frieza isn't more "powerful" than the barebones Golden Frieza. The only difference lies in Ki Control, ridding the transformation of the egregious stamina drain that the original version suffered from.It's a rather specific comment, and as we know from ki in Dragon Ball (True Golden Frieza, etc) the mind makes up an important part of how powerful you are.
Manually raising your power level and amplifying and concentrating your power in quick bursts isn't a no brainer. In fact Piccolo tells him that he is stomping him because of exactly that reason.If Cell Max is an uncontrollable, mindless beast, then logically, the concept of holding back should be non-existent to it, no?
In Dbs we have an other example with kale. Calm Kale was stated to have a higher power output...
There was an implied power increase from both Frieza's dialogue on his power, Goku's dialogue which described him as not being the only one to get stronger, etc.True Golden Frieza isn't more "powerful" than the barebones Golden Frieza. The only difference lies in Ki Control, ridding the transformation of the egregious stamina drain that the original version suffered from.
Which is another example of DB characters going berserk still very much having Ki control. I've seen people argue that because Broly didn't destroy the Earth when going Super Saiyan, that means it's somehow an anti-feat because he shouldn't be using Ki control still. This movie proves that argument wrong even further.But Cell Max was literally able to do a charged up energy sphere the size of a moon and condense down to a size comparable to himself. So he clearly does have a certain level of Ki control. So just because his mind is going berserk doesn't mean that he suddenly can't control his power.
He still wouldn’t have a mind if he were completed, just some rr dude would control his actionsIt's a rather specific comment, and as we know from ki in Dragon Ball (True Golden Frieza, etc) the mind makes up an important part of how powerful you are.
He's only missing his mind control not “mind“ he's basically like a robot so yes he can use his fp even when berserkYah but just going beserk isn't as effective as consciously using your power to full efficacy. So his power output was unquantifiably worse ... I mean Broly goes beserk as well .. that's basically his fighting style and if both use the same "style", the stronger one should win right?
I think both gohan and piccolo should climb to the ultra instinct tournament signal since this interview confirms gohan piccolo are at the same level goku and vegeta
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stop thinking in VSBW terminologybruh
how did piccolo even get that strong? I thought the dragon balls couldn't grant wish far beyond their power, but Shenron somehow gave piccolo low-2C levels of power?
i mean sadly piccolo only wish to unlock his potential. he should wish to be the strongest in the universebruh
how did piccolo even get that strong? I thought the dragon balls couldn't grant wish far beyond their power, but Shenron somehow gave piccolo low-2C levels of power?
Because of actual statements of powerscaling?bruh
how did piccolo even get that strong? I thought the dragon balls couldn't grant wish far beyond their power, but Shenron somehow gave piccolo low-2C levels of power?
i think ur not getting my point hereBecause of actual statements of powerscaling?