Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Spinoirr]

Well, purely from eye:

Assuming Gas is 6 foot, the ball is about 4 times his size so 24 feet in diameter let's say. Let's assume it's steel.

Volume = 4/3*π*12^3 = 7238.23 feet^3

Avg. Density of steel is 7.9 g/cm^3 or 493.2 lb/ft

So weight would be 7238.23*493.2 = 3 569,895.03 pounds =1,619,277.2 kilograms

= Class M

Well it's probably higher with pixel scaleing

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

So can we calc this lifting strength feat?

Too little for a feat, we want Goku lifting planets, not that...

 

[Quantu]

Well it's probably higher with pixel scaleing

Probably, but considering it's just 1700 tons (meaning it has to cross the entire Class M gap nearly to reach Class G), I doubt it'll change the tier

 

[Quantu]

Finally, Goku became as strong as Spider-Man /s

Turns out ScrewAttack 160,000 tons was wank all along

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Turns out ScrewAttack 160,000 tons was wank all along

Although it's only class M, not an impressive feat to be honest.....

If it was something like Toei's feats in which characters move moons with their minds....,I would give you that.

 

[Spinoirr]

Dragon Ball super will forever be stuck in class M lifting strength both anime and manga

 

[Quantu]

Just take Immeasurable LS Universe Tree Goku folding Pre-Crisis Superman in arm wrestling and accept mediocrity everywhere else lol

 

[Nullflowerblush]

honestly you could probably chalk up fu "carrying" that universe to hax

 

[Spinoirr]

a lifting strength feats i could fine in this current arc

 

[BlackeJan]

So what’s y’all thought the current chapter and Goku’s…..absurd power up

 

[ZetaMarishi]

The cheater's about to age himself to death, and tbh it doesn't really feel like Goku's done with his whole thing yet. He tried to mimic the Angels, it failed, and now he might need to get his own path truly going.

I personally liked the chapter, honestly.

 

[Kin201]

MUI Goku (with proper mindset) >> UI Omen Goku > MUI Goku (not in proper mindset) = UE Vegeta

Is this really how Goku is compared to Vegeta now?

 

[StekFence]

It’ll turn out vegetas jsut using ultra ego sign(coping)

 

[Myguy]

why cant we add multipliers to dbz lifting strength again? I mean, the site already accepted the ssj multiplier

 

[RinneItachi]

It’ll turn out vegetas jsut using ultra ego sign(coping)

When he uses real Ultra Ego (which the fanbase will call "mastered" even though it's not actually mastered) his hair will simply be more purple but the power difference will be astronomical.

 

[RinneItachi]

why cant we add multipliers to dbz lifting strength again? I mean, the site already accepted the ssj multiplier

I guess because in canon material there hasn't been any accepted evidence that the multipliers increase lifting strength as well. Definitely is a thing, but knowing how the wiki operates in regards to what's considered evidence, it probably won't be accepted unless something concrete is brought in a CRT.

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

I get the feeling that the UE we’re seeing is just UE period. if we were looking at an incomplete form I’d assume it’d be parallel to UI where sign/omen was black hair and then the actual thing was sliver to resemble the origin of the power (angels) just like purple supposed to resemble the GoDs (more specifically beerus but whatever).

I think toyataro and toriyama just really don’t like Vegeta. At this point I feel like they actively enjoy scripting and illustrating his Ls

 

[Tripleaccel555]

I think toyataro and toriyama just really don’t like Vegeta. At this point I feel like they actively enjoy scripting and illustrating his Ls

It's opposite to SDBH. Where Vegeta get more win such like how he beat Kanba , Turles , Oren and Kamin.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I guess because in canon material there hasn't been any accepted evidence that the multipliers increase lifting strength as well. Definitely is a thing, but knowing how the wiki operates in regards to what's considered evidence, it probably won't be accepted unless something concrete is brought in a CRT.

Is the scene where Goku lifts 40T at King Kai's World Canon? If it is, it'd support multipliers multiplying LS

 

[Tripleaccel555]

 

[RinneItachi]

Is the scene where Goku lifts 40T at King Kai's World Canon? If it is, it'd support multipliers multiplying LS

It is, but it might get ruled out anyways due to how insanely inconsistent it is to begin with.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Why does Android 18 have Accelerated Development?

 

[Shubham_Sonsurkar]

Why does Android 18 have Accelerated Development?

I assume since she got stronger than what she was Pre TOP

 

[BOEGVELD]

Didn't she also train with Krillin right before the TOP?

 

[BlackeJan]

When he uses real Ultra Ego (which the fanbase will call "mastered" even though it's not actually mastered) his hair will simply be more purple but the power difference will be astronomical.

Eh I wouldn’t say to a extent considering the fact that Vegeta was the only one gaining the upper hand rather then Goku does most of the time + If GoD want to master UI badly then yeah UI > UE

 

[BlackeJan]

I didn’t have nothing against with this chapter but Goku using UIO while using his “emotions” then getting a powerup from it doesn’t make a lick of sense to me. If that was the case then Goku should had beaten Moro without having to Complete UI

 

[Valiant_Abyss]

Ok so how tf do we write on the profile that Complete UI is stronger but UI omen is stronger if Goku isn't in the right mindset for complete UI.

 

[Spinoirr]

Ok so how tf do we write on the profile that Complete UI is stronger but UI omen is stronger if Goku isn't in the right mindset for complete UI.

(With PUI with the wrong mindset Goku could push back Gas alongside UE Vegeta. With UIS with the right mindset he said he was barely stronger then Gas)

 

[Spinoirr]

"Once Monaito had healed him and Vegeta further, Goku resumed his Perfected Ultra Instinct state and began to fight Gas alongside Ultra Ego Vegeta. Despite Gas being stronger than the two of them, their coordination and teamwork allowed them to hold their own against their stronger foe. Soon after, reflecting and mediating on all he learned, Goku went for a new balance of relying on Ultra Instinct Sign's basic performance boost so he could also let his emotions fuel him further. This tactic quickly allowed Goku to gain a firm control of the battle, proving slightly stronger than Gas and easily outmanuevering the foe."
- from the dragon ball wiki

 

[BlackeJan]

Ok so how tf do we write on the profile that Complete UI is stronger but UI omen is stronger if Goku isn't in the right mindset for complete UI.

And this right here is why UI doesn’t make sense now

 

[ZetaMarishi]

It'd... just be a weakness to a complete Ultra Instinct key. Literally just "Complete UI requires the right mindset to draw out its full power, if Goku is not in the right mindset, then it is far weaker/not as effective."

Or something similar to that, at least. It's not that complicated.

 

[SirAlex09]

It'd... just be a weakness to a complete Ultra Instinct key. Literally just "Complete UI requires the right mindset to draw out its full power, if Goku is not in the right mindset, then it is far weaker/not as effective."

I think this makes sense the most.

 

[Coolboy6]

If you’re Pansexual in the DBZ/GT universe, FBI OPEN UP

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Gigachad Piccolo Naranja

 

[Zamasu_Chan]

Second strongest btw.

 

[JirensMom]

Toriyama confirmed Cell Max is stronger than Broly...

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Toriyama confirmed Cell Max is stronger than Broly...

.....scan

 

[JirensMom]

.....scan

Before anyone says anything about it only being about completed Cell Max well it was stated in the Movie that Cell Max’s body was complete he was only missing mind control.

 

[ZetaMarishi]

I'll be honest, with Piccolo being stated as about Goku level and Gohan and Cell Max scaling above him, and Cell Max being vaguely scaled around (either above or slightly below) Broly, I think they're all just at Low 2-C now.