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It literally names Grand Kai's planet thoughhttp://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/images/07-036-a.gif , samething for the daizenshuu map , but obviously you decided to ignore that.
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It literally names Grand Kai's planet thoughhttp://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/images/07-036-a.gif , samething for the daizenshuu map , but obviously you decided to ignore that.
Take the screenshot and link it here (if you read the history part instead of the gameplay part).The books also say that Chi-Chi is almost as powerful as Roshi and the average Saiyan, and that the Super Saiyan multiplier is 2.5x, and that Vegeta was there to witness Frieza destroying the planet.
I just gave you the daizenshuu map and doesn't put grand kai's world there , you decided to ignore that.It literally names Grand Kai's planet though
It's seems to be stuff lifted from the Daizenshuu with some guesswork addedThe books also say that Chi-Chi is almost as powerful as Roshi and the average Saiyan, and that the Super Saiyan multiplier is 2.5x, and that Vegeta was there to witness Frieza destroying the planet but obviously, you chose to ignore that.
http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/07-worldview.phpIt's seems to be stuff lifted from the Daizenshuu with some guesswork added
Planet Dai Kaiou IS Grand Kai's planetI just gave you the daizenshuu map and doesn't put grand kai's world there , you decided to ignore that.
I said the map itself. Not to mention , this section was from the saiyan saga , and at that point , there was no knowing for dai kao.Planet Dai Kaiou IS Grand Kai's planet
Those sections are only for the game, if you read correctly you would no there is no such a thing as HITS statistic in dragon ball, or evasion, or weapon but you decided to ignore that. If you think evasion, weapons, or HITs stats aren't anything other than for the game instead of reading what they explain about the actual anime, did you read what they say about the Saiyan saga or someone of the character's background at that time? nop You said they say chi-chi is more powerful than roshi, were is that stated? no were obviously.
Answer my question, is HITS, EVASION, WEAPON, MENTAL are for the games mechanic or the actual anime? You decide to ignore what they say about the character's background and tried to discredit that by focusing on obvious things that are just an element of game techniques (didn't try to see if the backstory in detail is correct but decides to focus on the aspect that is only for the game itself, you didn't read the book). Those power levels are only for the games (for the Saiyan saga obviously), it's in the same section for HIT, EVASION, WEAPON, MENTAL stats which we know aren't part of anything else other than gameplay mechanic, not the lore or what they explain itself. They even tell you that............., how desperate you might be and not read those parts.It's very obvious they were attempting to implement actual Power Levels rather than just gameplay mechanics, giving Goku a Power Level of 8,000 during the Saiyan Saga, giving Raditz and the Saibamen Power Levels in the 1,200 range, giving the Saiyan Saga Z-Fighters Power Levels based on what the Daizenshuu stated.
1) They specifically said, background, places, and people, the powers level doesn't matter when it's in the same case or place as other statistics that are only elements of gameplay, so no your argument is wrong. You are completely debunked. You should focus on the lore and description of the page THAT ARE SPECIFIC IN THE BACKGROUND/STORYTELLING OF THAT SECTION, ALL YOU DO IS READ THE PART THAT IS SEPERATED AND ONLY FOR GAME MECHANICS AND ARE IRRELEVANT. You focus on the power level which is completely irrelevant on my base premise that the cosmology itself is outerversal , you derailed by talking about irrelevant parts that have nothing to do with cosmology (power levels are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S THE makeup OF THE MACROVERSE WHICH IS OBVIOUS).Those scans that you sent simply state that they are adding extra information to the lore of the anime and expanding upon character backgrounds and lore, which actually supports my argument. They're simply expanding upon characters and their Power Levels.
Also, the stats are unrelated to the Power Levels. I initially thought that the Power Level would be the sum of the stats, but that isn't right. I thought if I multiplied all the stats, the product would be the Power Level, but that isn't right, either.
On top of that, despite some characters [X] having higher Power Levels than other characters [Y], like Raditz [X] having a slight advantage over the Saibamen [Y], their [X] PHYSICAL, COMBAT, and MOVEMENT stats could be equal to or even lower than the other characters [Y], despite their superior Power Level.
The Power Levels are expansions of the character's bio. The stats are game mechanics.
"Extensive background on the people..."1) They specifically said, background, places, and people, the powers level doesn't matter when it's in the same case or place as other statistics that are only elements of gameplay, so no your argument is wrong.
Again,3) I WILL ASK THIS QUESTION ONCE MORE, IS: PWP UP, MENTAL, HITS, DEFENSE, EVASION, PHYSICAL, DEFLECTION, WEAPON HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE DRAGON BALL ANIME (if yes, prove such statements in the actual anime) OR THE ACTUAL GAME MECHANICS? DO NOT DODGE THE QUESTION AND ANSWER.
6) In this scan, (your own), IS THE SKILL PART TALKING ABOUT THE GAME MECHANICS OR BACKGROUND? YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER. IN YOUR OWN SCAN IT EVEN GIVES YOU THE DIFFERENCE, THERE IS THE BACKGROUND SECTION AND OTHERS THAT AREN"T
...the stats are unrelated to the Power Levels. I initially thought that the Power Level would be the sum of the stats, but that isn't right. I thought if I multiplied all the stats, the product would be the Power Level, but that isn't right, either.
On top of that, despite some characters [X] having higher Power Levels than other characters [Y], like Raditz [X] having a slight advantage over the Saibamen [Y], their [X] PHYSICAL, COMBAT, and MOVEMENT stats could be equal to or even lower than the other characters [Y], despite their superior Power Level.
The Power Levels are expansions of the character's bio. The stats are game mechanics.
Yeah, so is Xenoverse.5) -Officially, licensed, by Shueisha, bird studios, Toei animation, and fun animation.
-Specifically talks about the background on the people, places, and more.
-Specify which part is background material and game concept or mechanics,
I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS CLEAR AS POSSIBLE AND YOU BETTER ANSWER CLEAR CUT AND DRY:"Extensive background on the people..."
Are Power Levels not considered a part of a person's background?
Again,
Yeah, so is Xenoverse.
-It is it transcends dimensionality itself and dimensionality can have infinite dimensions, 3d,4d,5d,6d into infinity. Literally outerversal. The only statement is that the other world has higher dimensions than the universe.Except for the part where the Wiki requires said "Higher Dimensions" that the "Outer Dimensional" location is beyond to be clearly proven as beyond Infinitely greater than Lower Dimensions with actual statements and feats. Just calling them Higher Dimensions or Outer Dimensional is no actual evidence at all.
Before you say anything, if there is any Verse that you don't think have that proof then it is a case that they should be downgraded and not Dragon Ball should be Upgraded because of a wrong premise. Also, bringing up Dictionary definitions doesn't matter either, the Wiki has its definition of these things and it doesn't matter what a Dictionary says if they don't fit the Wiki's definition.
They do not have to. It's a description of how those barriers work (and their location), and that is more than enough for evidence and you wrong, it's a statement that describes how it works.If the dimensions don't have feats or statements that prove they fit the Wiki's definition then they could be called ∞×∞ Dimensions and they still wouldn't be even Low 1-C, and no just be called or being said to be Higher Dimensional, Outside Dimensions, or Transcends the Concept of Dimensions is not an actual feat or statement.
Just because the name is from an official book about the Verse's Cosmology or an in-verse scientist said to be an expert in Dimensions does not count as evidence without the feats or statements. Names are absolutely worthless as evidence when it comes to proving Higher-Dimensional or Outerversal, no matter how much you think they should count as evidence they aren't.
Except for the part where the Wiki requires said "Higher Dimensions" that the "Outer Dimensional" location is beyond to be clearly proven as beyond Infinitely greater than Lower Dimensions with actual statements and feats. Just calling them Higher Dimensions or Outer Dimensional is no actual evidence at all.
Before you say anything, if there is any Verse that you don't think have that proof then it is a case that they should be downgraded and not Dragon Ball should be Upgraded because of a wrong premise. Also, bringing up Dictionary definitions doesn't matter either, the Wiki has its definition of these things and it doesn't matter what a Dictionary says if they don't fit the Wiki's definition.
'Official source aren't actual evidence!!!!'I'm going to say it straight, argue with me, another user, or even staff as much as you want. This won't change the fact that your proof isn't actually proof by this Wiki's opinion. If you think the Wiki is wrong then make a CRT to change this, otherwise, you have no actual evidence no matter how official the source that gives the name is or what headcanon you create, because The Wiki Doesn't Care.
-I do not care about what the wiki cares THAT'S IRRELEVANT, I only care about if SOMETHING is right or valid arguments, not what the wiki thinks.I'm going to say it straight, argue with me, another user, or even staff as much as you want. This won't change the fact that your proof isn't actually proof by this Wiki's opinion. If you think the Wiki is wrong then make a CRT to change this, otherwise, you have no actual evidence no matter how official the source that gives the name is or what headcanon you create, because The Wiki Doesn't Care.
No, they don't, they laugh at the wiki for having everyone and their mother at multiversal for the flimsiest reason and for people like you screaming about how words having meanings doesn't matter and the wiki's arbitrary definition is the only one that matters.People laugh at the site because of these Higher Dimensions you are aiming for and how they perceive us giving these Higher Dimensions out for no actual feats or statements. Simple names and headcanons constructed from no actual feats or statements are not evidence no matter how official the source is, they are as worthless as making a character Tier 0 because the Author calls them Omnipotent.
People laugh at the site because of these Higher Dimensions you are aiming for and how they perceive us giving these Higher Dimensions out for no actual feats or statements. Simple names and headcanons constructed from no actual feats or statements are not evidence no matter how official the source is, they are as worthless as making a character Tier 0 because the Author calls them Omnipotent.
Lol, 'Make something that won't be accepted either way on principle, which is what you're critising in the first place!!!' isn't the gotcha you think it is.Make a CRT.
Even if I were to make A CRT for that and debunked all of them that disagree, if they aren't okay with that, there is no way this CRT will pass you realize that?Make a CRT.
''''''''evidence'''''''' Cope. Still official. Still better than whatever verse you're desperatly trying to defend here.There is really no way to progress from here, you know the Wiki doesn't accept your "evidence" but you also think you are still absolutely correct. So all that will happen is you won't make a CRT, Dragon Ball's Tier won't change, while you still go on in this Thread about how Dragon Ball's "Higher Dimensions" are more accurate them the rest of the Wiki's actually accepted Higher Dimensions and how the Wiki's opinion is wrong. This is a complete impasse, nothing no one will say will change this and will instead just waste time.
Never know until you try.Even if I were to make A CRT for that and debunked all of them that disagree, if they aren't okay with that, there is no way this CRT will pass you realize that?
Never know until you try.
Just curious, but what Verses are the ones that don't fit the standards?