He's stopping the force of the punch without moving, by clearly countering that force with an equal amount of opposite force. Also he was able to smash through multiple arms of moro and push back on them while flying and only stopped after moro put like 15 arms in front of goku.
It's not like moro was using 1% of his power when he was fighting Goku as a planet, just because his face wasn't painted across the entire continent of asia. Moro still had all the power and abilities that come from becoming a planet while fighting Goku, so his lifting strength should scale to all his moves. Besides, Goku actually kind of was pushing moro into the earth and moro was getting overpowered and couldn't do anything.
Well if his whole body is a planet, that means he automatically scales to class Y lifting strength, so his strength would then become class Y, so Goku doesn't need to push on the planet to get that, he just needs to push moro who scales to class Y.
I understand, but there is a reason to assume that, because moro's manifestations have the same power they do as when he wasn't a planet, moro didn't actually get any stronger after fusing with earth, he only could endure merus' power better, and before fusion, he was equal to UI Goku, and after his fusion he could still pose a threat to UI Goku and was able to damage him and even defeated him, so that means that if the manifestations were still at full power then they should also scale to his full lifting strength. Another argument is that, at the end moro was getting overpowered and was being pushed by Goku's avatar, so if he had all that lifting strength while essentially fighting for his life while grappling Goku, then there would be no way that he'd not use it.
You can try and make a CRT. Use the grappling argument. And also when goku got out of moro's fist after he absorbed uub's ki.
Yes bro. For some reason someone thought it was a good idea to put it there.
But why tho?
Doesn’t Vegeta usually overpower his opponents when he gets the chance? Why would he waste his strength dragging out a fight on a weak opponent?vegeta could be 6 times stronger than katopesla and he was just testing his strength that's why he didn't finish him, so SSj to be able to fight with U. katopesla make sense or maybe i Wrong
Alright.
it looks good.Remember when this horrific render was on DBS Broly's profile?
Either vegeta was way stronger in base but was just testing him, or vegeta was in SSJ2 and they didn't bother doing lightning, or it's just an inconsistency. I think the likely answer is base vegeta was suppressed.
A lot of people believe that MSSJ is 500x base. And it also makes sense. Vegeta's ssj grade 2 was much greater than normal SSJ. And goku's MSSJ even at 50% mogged vegeta's grade 2 ssj. And if MSSJ=SSJ, then cell would have one shotted goku. On the contrary, goku actually did better against cell than vegeta/trunks did. So , MSSJ>SSJ.
It wasn't ignored. It was just assumed that base Vegeta was holding back and was stronger. This kind of stuff happened all throughout the ToP and we assumed as such most of the times when base Saiyans fought some fodder. ToP is also notoriously inconsistent to begin with, what with portraying SSJ Vegeta = SSG Goku = Ultimate Gohan = Base Freeza in the fight with Anilaza.
Yeah it's unfortunate, but I'll still defend it.
They'll be 2-C actually, top tiers will be 2-B
Cumber won't probably scale to 2-B
