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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

Nah, said that Vegito unfused by Buu's body gas and no word about Potara's timer. Goku said he thinks that fusion is infinite, and Kaioshin didn't object it, just explained why he and Kibito is unfused. And theres some contradicts with ToP arc where Goku was surprised that Kaioshin and Kibito is unfused, they said they used dragonball for that.
But also we have Bardok's equipment from DBS.
And if really have infinite universes, then DBS 12 universes haven't any sense.
If Makai is one and only, then why is it part of U7 in databooks, and what we should do with other universes which have same cosmology? U7 is unique? That's very strange for DBS multiverse idea.

3 realms in Makai isn't something new, in databooks was said that in Makai some realms like in Other World.
 
BitestDust said:
Nah, said that Vegito unfused by Buu's body gas and no word about Potara's timer. Goku said he thinks that fusion is infinite, and Kaioshin didn't object it, just explained why he and Kibito is unfused.
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This wouldn’t matter, because Kibito nor Shin knew the true power of the Potara. They were taught incorrectly by Elder Kai, and so they themselves believe the falsehood themselves. Shin didn’t learn the truth until he was corrected by Gowasu.

BitestDust said:
And theres some contradicts with ToP arc where Goku was surprised that Kaioshin and Kibito is unfused, they said they used dragonball for that.
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Legitimately just think Kibito and Shin are gonna re-fuse.
BitestDust said:
And if really have infinite universes, then DBS 12 universes haven't any sense.
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I mean it’s not implied there are infinite universes. Just infinite points to travel into the 12 Universes, for now.
BitestDust said:
If Makai is one and only, then why is it part of U7 in databooks, and what we should do with other universes which have same cosmology? U7 is unique? That's very strange for DBS multiverse idea.
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This is something I’m curious on myself.
BitestDust said:
3 realms in Makai isn't something new, in databooks was said that in Makai some realms like in Other World.
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Yeah, this is true.
 
RedReaper616 said:
This wouldn’t matter, because Kibito nor Shin knew the true power of the Potara. They were taught incorrectly by Elder Kai, and so they themselves believe the falsehood themselves. Shin didn’t learn the truth until he was corrected by Gowasu.
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Yeah, I think so, too. There's just no precedent for Potars being used by mortals in the 7th universe, so old Kaioshin doesn't know anything about it either.
Either way, it's looking weird so far. Especially Goku's surprise in the ToP arc.
 
Daima peak already as expected. I was invested the whole way through and can't wait for the next one. Ending of E1 had a weird tone ngl but still episode was great like 10/10.

Already got literal gargantuan lore drops;

First things first, Namekians are confirmed to be from the Demon Realm, which ties in to the whole "Demon King Piccolo" thing and allat, an idea that kinda got dropped until now. The Namekian's being from a different realm was teased in the Granolah Arc so that means this concept HAS been in the works for years now at bare minimum. Apparently there was a line of Demon King's/Supreme Demon King's with Dabura being the last before the new guy. And Dabura had a father named Abura.

Cosmology upgrades might go hard here. It is confirmed that there are in fact 3 different Demon Worlds within the Demon Realm, which in itself is separated from the "Outside World", wherein all of main Dragon Ball takes place, including the 12 universes as a whole. Considering the implications we get, we're probably talking about different space-times as well. This could be interpreted as a good Zeno statement given that Whis should very much be aware of the Demon Realm. Additionally, there is some kind of gateway guardian that controls the travel between different realms and worlds. I hope we get more context on these things. Oh and it was said that Babidi intended to use Buu to rule over not just the main world, but ALL worlds, including the Demon Realm. So Buu was really built different back in those days. Besides Beerus he was def the strongest individual entity in Universe 7 in his reign.

The Demon Realm has its own set of Dragon Ball's, created by the ancient Namekian Neva who likely predates the Namekian's of the Outside World and hasn't seen another of his kind in thousands of years, with this set likely divided between the 3 different Demon World's, but hasn't been confirmed. These Dragon Balls are individually protected by seemingly mechanical beings who are so powerful that apparently no one has collected the set in an extremely long time. This could imply that Dabura was inferior to these guardians depending on interpretation, which means we could be talking about SSJ2 Buu Saga caliber characters, but they're probably stronger than that. Neva also has the ability to detect and summon Dragon Ball's, though it's apparently harder when they are inactive. Just my gut but I'm feeling like Neva will somehow tie into Zalama later in Daima. He might have even directly interacted with him. It's being implied that Neva might be the originator of the Namekian form of the Dragon Ball's which are in turn a knock-off of the Super Dragon Ball's. This ties in with the size thing. Super Dragon Ball's being the largest by literal astronomical difference, then the Demon Realm Dragon Ball's, then the Namekian Dragon Ball's, then Earth, then the ones on Granolah's planet. I might be forgetting some of the lore though but it adds up.

Apparently, there are different classes of magic, with Shenron's magic being "white magic", the implication being that white and black magics differ from morality, so Shenron cannot do any directly evil things through wishes. Interestingly, this might retcon the old concept that Shenron couldn't kill anyone stronger than Kami, as they only imply he can't do it because it's outside of the category of magic he uses.

Supreme Kai has multiple siblings so that's something.

Confirmed to be taking place within a year after the Buu Saga due to Trunks celebrating his 9th birthday.

In Daima, Kibitoshin got unfused by Buu using his "magical gases" which was the original explanation for Vegito in the Buu Saga. It's obvious that this is a plot device because the show needs Shin for a plotline, but nevertheless the implications are kinda big. This also probably ties in to Buu's magical resistances in the Moro arc.

Also Supreme Kai having evil siblings is REALLY interesting and there may be more to Kai's than we thought if they can just branch off and do their own thing.
 
Peak Fiction 🔥

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Dust_Collector said:
Also mostly don't want spoilers on the Shadow stuff but do wanna be spoiled on one thing I haven't been able to find:

Does Shadow lose his new doom powers or keep them? Because I assume Shadows story ends with him going off to fight Sonic leading into the boss fight for the main game and unless they also changed the boss fight to include them I was thinking the doom stuff was gonna be a one off for this game only.
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Wow didn't know Shadow appeared in Daima
 
I have no idea how I ended up posting that here I even quoted a post I made on the actual Sonic discussion thread when writing that lmao
 
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