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Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

 
The hypertimeline literally only gets disproven if you can prove there is a singular time stream for the whole 13 universes and subdimensions of them, even just having 2 different spacetimes confirmed to exist in all of the multiverse would still make DB timelines Low 1-C because of hierarchical superiority.
 
I just realized that Super Saiyan Goku (End) is based entirely on his Cell Saga self while Base, Super Saiyan 2 & 3 are based entirely on the Buu saga (this is obviously talking about Budokai Tenkaichi 3).

Granted Base (End) just has a generic moveset bar the Super Spirit Bomb because he never fights in that form ever since he got Super Saiyan.
 
The hypertimeline literally only gets disproven if you can prove there is a singular time stream for the whole 13 universes and subdimensions of them, even just having 2 different spacetimes confirmed to exist in all of the multiverse would still make DB timelines Low 1-C because of hierarchical superiority.
i mean.....they did all have individual space times without the extra time dimension statement into consideration earlier, but still wasn't Low 1-C, the other time dimension statement of the ROSAT and Time Room was what made the timeline Low 1-C, without those it would still be 2-C, altho i don't think anyone can find a way to disprove the ROSAT for that to matter..........so meh
 
ok and? there is like, no way to fit that movie in the Toei Continuity at all
i don't see why we couldn't use it anyways, there's verses with much less consistency in their lore


we also already use fusion reborn which blatantly doesn't fit anywhere on the timeline either (worse than movie 8 even since you can just say that takes place during the 10 day wait) but we give it to the toei keys anyways cause GT treats fusion reborn as canon
 
i don't see why we couldn't use it anyways, there's verses with much less consistency in their lore
i can't use it since......it doesn't work, it doesn't fit at all

we also already use fusion reborn which blatantly doesn't fit anywhere on the timeline either (worse than movie 8 even since you can just say that takes place during the 10 day wait) but we give it to the toei keys anyways cause GT treats fusion reborn as canon
, Garlic Jr and Fusion reborn at least have direct statements that directly connects them to the Toei Continuity.....Broly? not so much, as for the 10 days wait? well, 1 we see most of these days in the Toei Anime 2 Goku and Gohan are not in Super Saiyan, when then they never turned it off at all in the wait for the Cell Games 3 Vegeta wouldn't ever stop for a picnic in the brink of the Cell games.........it doesn't really makes sense
 
i can't use it since......it doesn't work, it doesn't fit at all


, Garlic Jr and Fusion reborn at least have direct statements that directly connects them to the Toei Continuity.....Broly? not so much, as for the 10 days wait? well, 1 we see most of these days in the Toei Anime 2 Goku and Gohan are not in Super Saiyan, when then they never turned it off at all in the wait for the Cell Games 3 Vegeta wouldn't ever stop for a picnic in the brink of the Cell games.........it doesn't really makes sense
Broly and the rest of the toei movies have a direct connection to fusion reborn since the characters from the movie appear while invading Earth, you can see Bojack, a crusher corp member, Paragus etc.

I feel like with it not fitting with the movie you could just justify Goku going into base for Gohan's interview, and Vegeta is simply a victim of bad writing like other Toei filler moments (Gohan jobbing to a regular ass whip moment)

I feel like you can't really say that Fusion Reborn fits the timeline but others don't without just applying headcanon to it, there's literally no timeslot for the movie to have happened since Goku and Vegeta are never dead at the same time long enough to fight Janemba, and you can't really ignore the blatant appearances of Paragus and stuff

 
Broly and the rest of the toei movies have a direct connection to fusion reborn since the characters from the movie appear while invading Earth, you can see Bojack, a crusher corp member, Paragus etc.
cute little references........still we know that it can't be the same ones from the earlier movies since most of them do not fit at all

I feel like with it not fitting with the movie you could just justify Goku going into base for Gohan's interview
Interview that would have happened in the state of utter chaos the the Cell games waiting period was in? was even the plot of some filler from the Toei anime even

, and Vegeta is simply a victim of bad writing like other Toei filler moments (Gohan jobbing to a regular ass whip moment)
......when said "bad writting" is from something that we have no statements of being cannon and that for other factors doesn't fit then i don't think it is a simple bad writting moment anymore, at least, not unless you can prove the premise you are trying to say makes it bad writting in the first place

I feel like you can't really say that Fusion Reborn fits the timeline but others don't without just applying headcanon to it, there's literally no timeslot for the movie to have happened since Goku and Vegeta are never dead at the same time long enough to fight Janemba
which is why we didn't considered it cannon at all until we got a direct statement in the GT Guides.......not the others tho

, and you can't really ignore the blatant appearances of Paragus and stuff

oh yes i can when it comes to making the movie canon, references are still a thing, when the thing getting referenced doesn't fit, i can simply say that it is a reference as otherwise it cannot fit
 
Dude, the "/" is an "or". I was saying that I thought no DB film before Super was canonical in general anime/manga.
Even then no because Garlic Jr got an entire filler arc in the anime to himself, not to mention the assload of references to the movies thanks to GT considering Fusion Reborn part of its continuity which included a bunch of movie villains.
 
Even then no because Garlic Jr got an entire filler arc in the anime to himself, not to mention the assload of references to the movies thanks to GT considering Fusion Reborn part of its continuity which included a bunch of movie villains.
I do not care.

I said "I thought" because I don't see much of the TOEI continuity, and I only saw it in general. I don't care if it's non-canon for the anime.
 
No he didn't, he never saw that in Z
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Broly and the rest of the toei movies have a direct connection to fusion reborn since the characters from the movie appear while invading Earth, you can see Bojack, a crusher corp member, Paragus etc.

I feel like with it not fitting with the movie you could just justify Goku going into base for Gohan's interview, and Vegeta is simply a victim of bad writing like other Toei filler moments (Gohan jobbing to a regular ass whip moment)

I feel like you can't really say that Fusion Reborn fits the timeline but others don't without just applying headcanon to it, there's literally no timeslot for the movie to have happened since Goku and Vegeta are never dead at the same time long enough to fight Janemba, and you can't really ignore the blatant appearances of Paragus and stuff

Yes, all films are canon to each other, not here where there is a lot of bureaucracy.
 
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