He haven't said that many times in the past and when I asked him off site or smth he told me, Wasn't it obvious that I agree when I am supporting the arguement? Also it's just end up on samething, he agrees and it's pretty clear from what I have seen for long (I don't want to make it a point of debate now).
It's fine, you presented a counter to the OP, it'll be taken into account.
I could say that this is not an argument, but okay, i will stop tooim not being such. I've read every thread nd you steadily been debunked over nd over about the same points. You had no real counter, even to this thread. All I said earlier was the truth nd you proved my point in prime fashion. Ima stop tho cus ion wanna hurt anymore feelings.
Plus they're the same visuals that don't show the Kai realm either and just depict the universe as a big af galaxy, which we know isn't accurate. These are clearly not to be trusted.
I just want to be safe, asking him to clarify doesn't hurt
This is why i am happy that it is you doing this, you are reasonable and not condescending, thank you
This part was accepted as not being inacurate i another thread by me
Point being?
Can you also tell your opinion as well? OP has been revised with @Firestorm808 arguements as well and @LordGriffin1000 also agrees so long being seen from outside is not a contradiction, which it is not.
This could simply be 70% of the discovered planets and land. It's not like they are looking to conquer empty space. Far more likely they mean 70% of the universe in relation to worth.
That was only for the macrocosm map calc
This is what I was saying in more understandable words.
Well, here it is said to be a dimension, soon in the anime we see that there are several galaxies during the super Shenron, about the dimension of the lights,explained on the website where it is claimed to be superdimensional, and in the anime comics Brolly suggests the same thing
Also Firestorm is in agree twice. Skim through quickly and one might think 2 mods agreed instead of one.
About the 28 planets, they are talking about beings that have reasoning, these are the only planets with reasoning and acceptable intelligence, said in the anime, soon I will bring the scan of that statement.
Both are alternate branched timelines. So one scan from one directly affects another.
Agree means you agree with everything. Disagree means you disagree with everything. If anyone agrees with one but disagrees with another they can be put in parentheses.
But anything in GT can just be labeled non canon as it pertains to DBS. It's stupid as if something applies to GT it should apply to DBZ which in turn applies to DBS but it is what it is.
Not anymore, GT has been accepted to be canon to DBZ/super as alternate branched Timeline, written in the dragonball main page.
Fr fr, deadass, or no cap???
As I mentioned earlier, only beings that have reason and mortals, according to Kaioshin he mentions planets that have mortals.
This is some great info my brethren.
yeah, which also included the part about how the dbs anime doesn't use it at all, but i think that id we start to argue this here we will go off topic really fast
i read the said "top" and i disagree with on that, i concede on the number of planets thing
absolutely, me for instance agree with infinite universe toei
not really, cosmology between the two doesn't scale, MWI makes it so that every possibility for cosmologies comes true, so since we have no evidence of them sharing cosmology, we don't use one to the other, that was already decided the moment gt was dubbed an alternate timeline
No, alternate Timelines, especially in MWI are literally mirror images of each other branching off from same timeline, so, it would require evidence that Cosmology was ever different than current one across the timeline of DBS or there are reasons that DBGT timeline has done some interference to the cosmology after being branched.
According to your argument, Each possibility is a reality, and GT/Super are branches of the same timeline. Then the possibility of them having the same cosmolgy is equal to them bot having the same cosmolgy. But the fact that both have the same lay ouy structer [4 quadrants, After life and kaioshen realm etc...] The possibility of them having the same size is more likely. So your argument really....doesn't make sense.
If its likely is not his point. If you cannot PROVE that they are the same then his point stands. Whether or not the stats will end up correlating to his argument? Only time will tell.
It's not even the point since DBGT is a alternate timeline that has been branched off from same timeline, so saying cosmological structure differs is like saying I was at the age of 10 was not human but later on I was. MWI has misconception of overusing possibility thing when it's just referring to number of possible actions a person would take, there is no reason to change the entire cosmological structure unless it's proven that cosmological structure was indeed different at some point in time in the past for Cosmology of alternate Timeline to differ, also we already accepts scans from alternate timeline in other verses for cosmology such as Anur phaetous in ben 10 being a alternate spacetime.
every timeline branches since the vary begining of creation of said timelines, aka every possibility for how said creation went also becomes real, we don't know when gt's branched, to say that it branched off the super timeline is baseless
which is why we don't scale them, to be safe
i don't see how any of what you just said leads to the conclusion you just said, could you explain more?
if every possibility becomes real, then the different cosmologies also become since they are "possibilities", it branches of the same timeline sure, but that doesn't mean much for the point, how these branches developed, how they change in laws of physics and what not, how their cosmologies develop differently, all of that still happens independently of them being branched of the same timeline, since it branches since the very begining, since before any planet or realm or anything else really was created
gt has the same cosmology as TOEIVERSE Z, not manga Z
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