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It's still just a stylistic depiction of a singular galaxy representing the universe. It doesn't need to be that deep.
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Dragon Ball: Infinite Universe
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no? what you are suggesting is that the darkness completely surrounds the "observable" universe and that no light of the stars can reach the darkness, and yet we see numerous stars beyond the so called "darkness" and even surrounding it
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Indeed, I saw light and darkness being seen one darkness and one light and so on.
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it is not a singular galaxy, this was also discussed in another thread, there several galaxy type of structures there
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Plus you can't exactly say it's to scale unless you want to argue that the building/Zeno's palace and people who walk there are bigger or almost as big as the universe.
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The whole argument about a visual depiction that doesn't even show the full scope is just baffling to me.
Fezzih_007
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So what's your take on that Black part below the universes?
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the argument is about how the universes look like, not their sizes, plus you can't use that argument for the other scans, specially the first one
it does show the full scope
what black part?
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.... I dunno what are those? But obviously something that needed to be shown, the light that surrounds center is not one big massive star or galaxy but a observable Universe that has covered 10% of the whole structure and everything else is darkness with clouds, planets and glittering, look at WOV yourself, it's nothingness but still has things in it, it's not exactly literal 100% accurate, same with beyond it's not like there nothing exist beyond observable Universe nothing. There does but it's way darker than the center where all light exist.
This is what happens when you go with visuals, everyone can interpret it as they wish with still maintaining a core accuracy.
WOV, accurate things doesn't exist. Especially visuals not. All of light can be seen in the center with everything else being clouds, dark and light glitters to some places.
Anyway, dropping this visual meh.
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I believe what you are referring to is the neutral zone
Fezzih_007
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I referring to the part below on the middle, like below the yellow ball of light, what's that?
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Man **** off with this visual shit
God damn
God damn
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The first and second one are bad debunks, unless you wanna say that the other universes are actually green and red lmoa. As for the third one we see a gaint galaxy in the middle surrounded by darkness...which is Intresting to say the least.
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Man **** off with this visual shit
God damn
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Well, I don't think we should focus on that, since @Zamasu_Chan already answered this point, let's wait for the team members.
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they are clearly stars
nope, we clearly see stars there, light sources
said glitering are stars, plus i don't think we see any planets at all
it is said to be a world of nothingness, and it is true, there is basically nothing there, the phrasing can make it non literal, which is proven when we see it in ToP arc
in the scans you are using it literally says that "where the light cannot reach" which is clearly not the case when there is stars, and thus light, there
not in this case, since the said visual contradicts the statements about the said darkness, the guides says that there is no light that reaches there and that there is no stars, and yet there is there, clearly
we see stars there, plus this doesn't cover the other depictions that i showed
you mean the part where there is stars? i don't get what you are asking
saying that something is ridiculous is not an argument you know?
we see light in the boarders and even dots of light
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no it is not, secondary sources suggest no light or stars at all, yet the main cannon shows that this is not the case, therefore the one thing that is being argued to be infinite in the universe is being contradicted by the series itself
ok then, if you want i will respect it agree to disagree.so agree to disagree.
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Then why are they banned?!?!?!
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Never seen someone try to stone wall using visuals when it contradicts things like the macrocosm map which is in the dbs manga and the kaioshin realm being shown to exist
insulted AKM iirc
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It's every repetitive argument, the problem that was refuted by Zamasu and the guy brings it back, I'm dying of a headache.
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8 pages filled with useless back and forth banters and almost no staff evaluation.
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sock puppet of a sockpuppet of a banned user i believe
DivineAura44
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I know that, I'm asking what's the point of a ban if said person is allowed to contribute to and majorly influence a thread. Might as unwell unban like wtf. Virtually a proxy.
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dude, this was accepted here, all the other realms don't contradict the visual, it is accepted and it is not stone walling
the current argument was not
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DivineAura44
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We need mods.
Fezzih_007
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You see that ball of light on the middle between the universes? And below that have a darkness? I'm referring to that.
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People. Stop complaining about the visuals thing. They are entitled to their opinion, period.
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Anyway, one more staff needed 2 agreed already, so we can wait. No more unnecessary comments on visuals stuff.
Firestorm seems to be neutral towards the CRT and this thread has been just going back and forth, can you give some conclusion over the thread?
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Didn't 3 agree already? Or do we still need another one?
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Again, that's the neutral zone. The place where the Universe 6 tournament occurred.
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the light is super shenron being summoned, the darkness is the dimension between both universes
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Ah, ok then, i din't see, sorry
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DDM is neutral, but leaning to agreement. They are waiting on Firestorm (which I believe is also leaning to agree, could be wrong)
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