• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Dragon Ball: Infinite Universe

Status
Not open for further replies.
i found this
main-qimg-87941dea8aa773bb246873d405369f11

It is based off our universe
 
One thing is the boundless expanse statement comes directly from Shenron who is a more reliable source on cosmic stuff than Bulma. Bulma was also using the center of the universe stuff as a hypothesis rather than a fact and did not even find any SDBs.
its clearly author intent so uh bulma isnt that bad of a source
 
i found this
main-qimg-87941dea8aa773bb246873d405369f11

It is based off our universe
It's only partly based off of the real world; plus, it says that there are countless celestial bodies, something that the real world obviously lacks (unless you buy into the whole infinite universe theory, but I digress).
 
One thing is the boundless expanse statement comes directly from Shenron who is a more reliable source on cosmic stuff than Bulma. Bulma was also using the center of the universe stuff as a hypothesis rather than a fact and did not even find any SDBs.
the shenron statement i believe we need a translation from the raws before anything else, but about the Bulma statement, she is never proven wrong, in fact, she did built the Super Dragon Radar and it was never brought up anything about the aspect of scanning the whole universe not working, she never found the super dragon ball, but that is because when she actually use it in search of them, it was when all 7 were already collected and the seventh one was on the planet were the tournament between universes 6 and 7 was taking place
 
Apparently the infinite universe topic has come up before a few times and been rejected; I'll need a bit of time to dig through old threads and see what the consensus was in the past.
That’s fine but the argument was just 4 galaxies so daizenshuu is wrong but the context that was ignored is the NSEW galaxy terms are just denominations used by the gods to refer to a section of the universe which is also on Broly toei’s profile

Also observable universe is just the name we gave it in the guides it’s just the galactic illuninations and there’s a darkness beyond the stars and the illuminations can’t reach which solves the edge and center argument and the darkness argument is supported by Yakon so even if we disregard the gt statement there’s still a lot of statements for infinite universe
It's only partly based off of the real world; plus, it says that there are countless celestial bodies, something that the real world obviously lacks (unless you buy into the whole infinite universe theory, but I digress).
Low 2-C living realm for being based off the real world
 
Does this refute anything about Shenron's credibility? He's not giving false information he just cant pinpoint something exact in an infinite space. Knowing the size and trying to find something within it is entirely different.
While Bulma is likely to be less about objective fact but rather her own hypothesis as Shenron would have vastly more knowledge or awareness on size of cosmology.
Dawg he just said space is vast, bulma isn't giving false information either

yes
Also you are again taking something out of context. It says space is vast THEN calls it boundless. Infinite can be vast. Crazy right?
 
This translation is made by a fan
That is dialogue from the official FUNimation English translation (not to be confused with the localization/dubbing). That character style is unique to Crunchyroll's streaming services.
Apparently, Akira Toriyama opted for the option of Dragon ball Super having countless galaxies based on the premise of what Jaco said.
銀河だけでもバカ広いのにそんな銀河がとんでもない数あるくらい宇宙は広いのだぞ! → "The galaxy alone is ridiculously wide, but the universe is so vast that there are an unbelievable number of such galaxies!"

"とんでもない" is used to describe the number of galaxies, which translates into "unthinkable; unexpected; outrageous; offensive".
 
This might help

Here's an official timeline wall from Shueisha which shows that they are sorta of in the same timeline. Perhaps GT and Super being a sort of "what if" branch.


Stuff from GT cosmology being used in a guidebook that has info about super. (Sugoroku space on page 35)

Dude, it says here that beerus transcends dimensions or is beerus l1c ?
 
That is dialogue from the official FUNimation English translation (not to be confused with the localization/dubbing). That character style is unique to Crunchyroll's streaming services.

銀河だけでもバカ広いのにそんな銀河がとんでもない数あるくらい宇宙は広いのだぞ! → "The galaxy alone is ridiculously wide, but the universe is so vast that there are an unbelievable number of such galaxies!"

"とんでもない" is used to describe the number of galaxies, which translates into "unthinkable; unexpected; outrageous; offensive".
If it’s crunchy roll it’s valid I’m not sure though

Unthinkable amount of galaxies or an unbelievable amount of galaxies is consistent with the anime saying countless so even if you use either one it still gives the same message dk what the point of that is
 
guys, wouldn't it be far simpler if we just got a translation member to translate the raw audio of the scene? until that happens this current debate feel kind of pointless
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top