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i don't need to make a crt when our own standards say otherwise, wrong things in profiles do not and should never dictate what can or can't be accepted
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Dragon Ball GT God Tier Upgrade: The Big (and simple) One
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Goku restricted, boxed with, and destroyed with Dragon Hammer Omega actually, not Syn
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They do, because otherwise it's double standards.
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I see
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If a profile is not following the wiki standards then it's the profile that should be CRT'd, not the standards.
And please stop derailing.
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Yes, please stop delearing, otherwise I take this to the RVR
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Pineappleman has mentioned several times that he's arguing for SFPS4 Goku to be relative to Omega in terms of pure AP. Why is the topic to drag into downscaling from 2-C? From what I see, the proposition is;
- Omega and SSJ4 Gogeta = 2-C
- SFPS4 Goku and Post NKB Goku = 2-C
- Vegeta = Low 2-C
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Restricting in the entire DB franchise has been done by weaker characters to much stronger ones.
A beaten up Goku restrained Raditz.
Android 16 restrained Perfect Cell.
SSJBE Vegeta restrained a much stronger Jiren.
And Syn Shenron scales to 1/10th of Omega, he doesn't simply downscale.
And Vegeta had to be equal with SSJ4 FP Goku for the fusion to work, as a fusion done by dance needs both partners to be equal in power.
A beaten up Goku restrained Raditz.
Android 16 restrained Perfect Cell.
SSJBE Vegeta restrained a much stronger Jiren.
And Syn Shenron scales to 1/10th of Omega, he doesn't simply downscale.
And Vegeta had to be equal with SSJ4 FP Goku for the fusion to work, as a fusion done by dance needs both partners to be equal in power.
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What about Gohan's statement?
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Just becouse there were cases where weaker opponents could hold a grip on stronger ones doesn't mean it has to be this case 10/10
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Yes, that is the argument for why Vegeta is weaker than Goku. His peak power was equal with a battle exhausted Goku.
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For the record I'm not saying that they are strictly equal, but I am denying that one was stomping the other. SSJ4FP Goku was able to fight Omega Shenron for a considerable ammount of time, Gohan stated that their power was too close to eachother, Goku then proceeds to one shot Omega into visual nothingness only for him to regenerate Buu-style, Goku takes more hits from Omega and gets back up, and then dodges and blitzes him to fully restrain him. He did not catch him off guard ala Raditz.
They are comparable.
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In that case, I think a 2-C upgrade seems alright.
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What about the Low 2-C downscale, given we got things like Egg Wizard or Beerus/Champa at Low 2-C through downscaling from 2-C feats.
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I'm not sure, but I have mentioned the other parts on the other thread. The Beerus Champa is just significantly above baseline 2-C due to it being two characters' combined might causing a 2-C feat. Where as trading blows with a 2-C character 2 on 1 would normally be 2-C outright still.
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Ok that's fair.
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OP seems to make sense to me
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Okay but this is not just fighting a 2-C character, is just being 1/10th of its power, aka the same of being just 1/10 of 2-C.
Which is similar to Beerus' case.
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again, our tier page explicitly states that dividing or multiplying will not result is a different tier when tier 2 is reached
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Upgrade DBS owo
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already am, better stop derailing tho
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@StrymULTRA Omegabronic already made a thread.
Stop delearing please, otherwise I take this to the RVR
Stop delearing please, otherwise I take this to the RVR
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I got what I asked so eh :x
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I believe that's enough staff votes. Open the pages, and I will make the necessary edits.
Syn Shenron
Born from the One-Star Dragon Ball, Syn Shenron or (Yi Xing Long, the One-Star Dragon) is the most evil and powerful of all the Shadow Dragons, having been born from the greatest and most selfless wish of all - Mr. Popo's wish to resurrect all those that Frieza had killed on Namek. Tier: 2-C |...
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Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT)
Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. A Saiyan, sent to Earth as a baby with the mission to destroy it, Goku became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head and was adopted by Grandpa Gohan. After departing five years to train Uub, Goku returns...
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Vegeta (Dragon Ball GT)
Vegeta (ベジータ, Bejīta?) is the disgraced prince of the Saiyan race, one of the few survivors of his species after Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. Left with no choice but to follow his orders, Vegeta traveled across the galaxy and eradicated planets for sale before he was brought to Earth by...
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Gogeta (Toei)
Gogeta (ゴジータ, Gojīta?) is the Metamoran Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta, originally formed to defeat Janemba, and later reappearing in Dragon Ball GT to face off against Omega Shenron. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's...
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We should wait before how the Half 2-C CRT goes 1st, as is more a standard thing.
I believe that's enough staff votes. Open the pages, and I will make the necessary edits.
Syn Shenron
Born from the One-Star Dragon Ball, Syn Shenron or (Yi Xing Long, the One-Star Dragon) is the most evil and powerful of all the Shadow Dragons, having been born from the greatest and most selfless wish of all - Mr. Popo's wish to resurrect all those that Frieza had killed on Namek. Tier: 2-C |...Son Goku (Dragon Ball GT)
Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. A Saiyan, sent to Earth as a baby with the mission to destroy it, Goku became a kind-hearted boy after he bumped his head and was adopted by Grandpa Gohan. After departing five years to train Uub, Goku returns...Vegeta (Dragon Ball GT)
Vegeta (ベジータ, Bejīta?) is the disgraced prince of the Saiyan race, one of the few survivors of his species after Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta. Left with no choice but to follow his orders, Vegeta traveled across the galaxy and eradicated planets for sale before he was brought to Earth by...Gogeta (Toei)
Gogeta (ゴジータ, Gojīta?) is the Metamoran Fusion of Son Goku and Vegeta, originally formed to defeat Janemba, and later reappearing in Dragon Ball GT to face off against Omega Shenron. While all fusions have immense power, Gogeta's power is abnormal even by regular standards, as Vegeta and Goku's...
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Not satisfied with just derailing the thread, wanna derail it's application too?
Fight your own battles man.
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Chars will be upgraded regardless. So depending on the result, chars besides Omega and SS4 Gogeta might get 2-C or Low 2-C
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We should apply the changes regardless.
Depending on the other thread, except SS4 Gogeta and Omega, others could get 2-C or Low 2-C.
But there is no use waiting
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doesn't matter much, however that concludes we can apply it to the characters affected by this one later
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What the other staff members here have accepted is probably fine to apply, but I will ask some more of them for help in order to make certain.
@SamanPatou @Maverick_Zero_X @Elizhaa @LordGriffin1000 @Starter_Pack @Sir_Ovens @Theglassman12 @DemonGodMitchAubin
Would you be willing to help out here please?
@SamanPatou @Maverick_Zero_X @Elizhaa @LordGriffin1000 @Starter_Pack @Sir_Ovens @Theglassman12 @DemonGodMitchAubin
Would you be willing to help out here please?
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Changes have been applied to the unlocked pages, still need Vegeta and Gogeta's pages to be unlocked to complete.
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Finally a 2-C Goku and Vegeta. Now I can put them against some Marvel Heralds
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Nah. I prefer to end the SSB VS SS4 debate
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Aint Syn supposed to be Low 2-C for now?
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Omega should be straight up 2-C, don't know about Syn tho.
But anyways, that's just what Strym says. Let's wait till that Staff thread ends
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just a correction nickpick, it is not a staff thread
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Depending on how omegabronic's thread goes, Syn and SSJ4 Vegeta may go down to Low 2-C accordingly.
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I hope so, since I'm pretty sure GT is the only verse with a 4 universes 2-C
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Depends on whether that 2-C revision that removes the double standard for 2-C multiplying/dividing is accepted.
Also, I prefer to make a GOW vs DBGT match.
(It'd be Kirby vs DBGT but Kirby scales to 15-16 universes)
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