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I didn't even insult anyone, i just say that IF daima makes dragon ball 2-A i will stop making it seem like it was forever low 2-C in my opinion
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Dragon Ball Daima Spoiler Discussion Thread
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No that would take an obscene amount of work, there are dozens of those statments constantly updating throughout the game and this isn't related to a revision at all, only the fesablity of it being made canon in the future.
I have explained everyway to Sunday how this works. You still don't get it.
Dose the multiverse only exist after loki kills the he who reminds after end game or avengers 1? No there are episodes of what if for movies before that yet loki is still definitively why it happened, it worked the same way because time itself was changed and that change affects all of time not just instances after the point in time where the change occurred.
This is my last attempt to explain this to you if you still don't get it I'm giving up.
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tbf eventually Ultima's planning on making low 2C to 2A the same AP because it's all infinite 4D power. He's just gonna make their distinction range based
So in the end it won't even matteeeerrrrrr if Daima gets to 2A
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great i guess
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yeah, should've been 6 years at least
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By that time i would have forgot about this site
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VSBW when alexander forgets it:
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no one would care reallyVSBW when alexander forgets it:
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wait really?
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Yeah but Ultima had this thought since 2 years ago, and well it's not going to happen any time soon
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Unless you can perceive universes away, would that really help?Yeah but Ultima had this thought since 2 years ago, and well it's not going to happen any time soon
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What?
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Having ranges larger than universal, it would basically make most characters in tier 2 completely equal
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Yeah I get that and?
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And most characters can't perceive other universes so it's just.. I don't feel like the tiers would he very distinctive
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He talked with you like instantly after you made that claim...? Yeah not buying that.
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I'm still not understanding what you mean, are you talking about the starting distance of fights in threads?
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No I'm talking about the use of mulitversal range
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Okay, so I finally watched Daima myself, and:
- Namekians are confirmed to be demons again, but they wield "white magic", different from other demons in the Demon Realm that wield a "black" variant.
- No, the fish is not an omnipotent 5D being that contains all existence lol. It's at best a big hub teleporter that has entrees into particular places around U7, and other ones too? The smaller fish requested which universe they were going to, so I guess the Demon Realm just has the power to travel between universes
- The demon Kai wasn't referring to Ki as "white magic", he only referred to Shenron's power as that. Those in the Demon Realm have little to no knowledge on Ki atm, so it stays its own thing away from any and all magic
- Step into the Grand Toooouuurrrr
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it also implies that the 12 universes are the "outside world" so it may also not be in u7 at all
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Oh yeah, and as far as I can tell there's literally nothing pointing to U7 being 2A in size. Idk where that came from, outside of speculation of that metal sphere they went to being infinite in size lol
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Nah, it could just as easily mean outside world as in relation to the demon realm, like the living world is outside of the demon realm.
Until we get more shit we just don't know
My bet is on 5D fish tho that'd be based
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Nah, he was
absolutely referring to Ki, because when he made that statement it was in reference to Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Gotenks. He was talking about how strong they are and how a Black Wish to kill would not work. That said, they do seem Ki-Ignorant, yeah, so my assumption for now is just they can’t really tell the difference between Magic and Ki.
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He said that a black wish wouldn't work because the DRAGON Shenron wouldn't be able to cast "black wishes", only "white" ones. The clown guy even coyly states that turning them young wouldn't count as a "black" wish so it'd be fine to ask Shenron for. If you think this means that DB characters can say no to any hax now without meming that's not it lol
They're not talking about ki at all with this, lol. They just assume the Z fighters use magic because they can fly and throw ki.
They're not talking about ki at all with this, lol. They just assume the Z fighters use magic because they can fly and throw ki.
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The exact words the demon Kai said were, "I'm sure their power (The DRAGON BALLS themselves) are based in white magic, so I doubt a black wish like eliminating them will be accepted"
This is just telling us Shenron can't wish people dead because that's black magic
This is just telling us Shenron can't wish people dead because that's black magic
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I was under the assumption “Their” was in reference to Goku and Co., because of the sentence structure. “Their” and “them” are referring to the same Subject, so it doesn’t make sense for him to say that because he’d be wishing for the Dragon Balls to wish themselves dead. They also continue off the same Subject, (“Turn them young?”) Though it could be just be me misreading it, or the fact JP kinda has built in specifics due to how context heavy the language is that changes in Subject don’t matter like they do in English.
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No "their" here refers to Goku and co, because he also uses "them " to refer to the cat being eliminated
Either way, his thoughts shouldn't be taken as fact until we know if his assumption on ki being white magic has any merit
They didn't even know what ki was
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The possibility of it being confirmed a great deal of key can resist negative effects is exciting tho
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how about we just wait for the actual show to explain what the realm is and what it means?
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That's less fun tho
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It just occurred to me--How does the Demon Hax work now? Because now every Namekian is a Demon. Which would mean they gain the ability to negate resurrection, right? And if you're a Demon Clansman on top, you also force your defeated foe into Limbo, right? Hm.
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What do you mean by negate resurrection? Where dose this come from?
The connection between the demon clansman and being a demon is weird and I hope it is explained
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In the DBS Manga, it's stated that those killed by Demons prevent Resurrection via Angel, which is why Jiren needs the Super Dragon Balls/Power of an Eternal Dragon to bring back his Master.
The Demon Clansman are seemingly a Demon Type based on morality. While you can be BORN a Demon, as they exist as a whole race within the Demon World, being a Demon Clansman is your alignment, being morally so evil your Ki literally is demonic and grants you auxiliary abilities (like forcing souls into Limbo, preventing the Nimbus from reforming, etc.) Then there is the final type of Demon, which are Living Manifestations of Pure Evil (Buu, Janemba) made from the thoughts and negativity of people. if there was a Demon pecking order--Living Evil > Genetically Demon > Demon Clansman.
At least for NOW. This all might change within Daima.
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that isn't right, they revived those killed by the Demon Clansman in OG DB
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Shenron having better resurrection than an Angel is certainly something
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Demon Clansman and Demon aren't the same, as far as I'm aware after Null walked me through how the Mazoku are treated differently. Demons are Dabura, Buu, etc. Clansman are Drum, Daimao Piccolo, etc. Also, it wouldn't matter, because Demons prevent specifically Angelic Resurrection, not all resurrection. Hence why Eternal Dragons can bring back their victims.
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They're all sorta Namekians, though, so all the canon Demon Clansmen would also count as regular Demons, I believe.
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That's why I'm asking. How would this change the approach to Demonic Hax? Since this implies that Daimao Piccolo, 23rd TB Piccolo, and the rest of the Clansman get more Demon Hax.
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Something something Shinjin Tree possibility?
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