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Dragon Ball Daima Spoiler Discussion Thread

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Omegabronic said:
FInd it and bring it here please
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No that would take an obscene amount of work, there are dozens of those statments constantly updating throughout the game and this isn't related to a revision at all, only the fesablity of it being made canon in the future.


Omegabronic said:
Dude, if it happens before the moment trunks time travelled, then his time travel can't be what caused it to split

I really don't get your point, you can't say it happens only after Trunks split if you show instances of it happening before
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I have explained everyway to Sunday how this works. You still don't get it.

Dose the multiverse only exist after loki kills the he who reminds after end game or avengers 1? No there are episodes of what if for movies before that yet loki is still definitively why it happened, it worked the same way because time itself was changed and that change affects all of time not just instances after the point in time where the change occurred.

This is my last attempt to explain this to you if you still don't get it I'm giving up.
 
Alexander said:
I didn't even insult anyone, i just say that IF daima makes dragon ball 2-A i will stop making it seem like it was forever low 2-C in my opinion
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tbf eventually Ultima's planning on making low 2C to 2A the same AP because it's all infinite 4D power. He's just gonna make their distinction range based

So in the end it won't even matteeeerrrrrr if Daima gets to 2A
 
PonePoster said:
tbf eventually Ultima's planning on making low 2C to 2A the same AP because it's all infinite 4D power. He's just gonna make their distinction range based

So in the end it won't even matteeeerrrrrr if Daima gets to 2A
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great i guess
 
VSBW when alexander forgets it:

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Darkmon_cns said:
And most characters can't perceive other universes so it's just.. I don't feel like the tiers would he very distinctive
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I'm still not understanding what you mean, are you talking about the starting distance of fights in threads?
 
Okay, so I finally watched Daima myself, and:

  • Namekians are confirmed to be demons again, but they wield "white magic", different from other demons in the Demon Realm that wield a "black" variant.
  • No, the fish is not an omnipotent 5D being that contains all existence lol. It's at best a big hub teleporter that has entrees into particular places around U7, and other ones too? The smaller fish requested which universe they were going to, so I guess the Demon Realm just has the power to travel between universes
  • The demon Kai wasn't referring to Ki as "white magic", he only referred to Shenron's power as that. Those in the Demon Realm have little to no knowledge on Ki atm, so it stays its own thing away from any and all magic
  • Step into the Grand Toooouuurrrr
 
PonePoster said:
Okay, so I finally watched Daima myself, and:

  • No, the fish is not an omnipotent 5D being that contains all existence lol. It's at best a big hub teleporter that has entrees into particular places around U7, and other ones too? The smaller fish requested which universe they were going to, so I guess the Demon Realm just has the power to travel between universes
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it also implies that the 12 universes are the "outside world" so it may also not be in u7 at all
 
Oh yeah, and as far as I can tell there's literally nothing pointing to U7 being 2A in size. Idk where that came from, outside of speculation of that metal sphere they went to being infinite in size lol
 
Omegabronic said:
it also implies that the 12 universes are the "outside world" so it may also not be in u7 at all
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Nah, it could just as easily mean outside world as in relation to the demon realm, like the living world is outside of the demon realm.

Until we get more shit we just don't know

My bet is on 5D fish tho that'd be based
 
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PonePoster said:
  • The demon Kai wasn't referring to Ki as "white magic", he only referred to Shenron's power as that. Those in the Demon Realm have little to no knowledge on Ki atm, so it stays its own thing away from any and all magic
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Nah, he was
absolutely referring to Ki, because when he made that statement it was in reference to Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Gotenks. He was talking about how strong they are and how a Black Wish to kill would not work. That said, they do seem Ki-Ignorant, yeah, so my assumption for now is just they can’t really tell the difference between Magic and Ki.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Nah, he was
absolutely referring to Ki, because when he made that statement it was in reference to Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Gotenks. He was talking about how strong they are and how a Black Wish to kill would not work. That said, they do seem Ki-Ignorant, yeah, so my assumption for now is just they can’t really tell the difference between Magic and Ki.
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He said that a black wish wouldn't work because the DRAGON Shenron wouldn't be able to cast "black wishes", only "white" ones. The clown guy even coyly states that turning them young wouldn't count as a "black" wish so it'd be fine to ask Shenron for. If you think this means that DB characters can say no to any hax now without meming that's not it lol

They're not talking about ki at all with this, lol. They just assume the Z fighters use magic because they can fly and throw ki.
 
The exact words the demon Kai said were, "I'm sure their power (The DRAGON BALLS themselves) are based in white magic, so I doubt a black wish like eliminating them will be accepted"

This is just telling us Shenron can't wish people dead because that's black magic
 
I was under the assumption “Their” was in reference to Goku and Co., because of the sentence structure. “Their” and “them” are referring to the same Subject, so it doesn’t make sense for him to say that because he’d be wishing for the Dragon Balls to wish themselves dead. They also continue off the same Subject, (“Turn them young?”) Though it could be just be me misreading it, or the fact JP kinda has built in specifics due to how context heavy the language is that changes in Subject don’t matter like they do in English.
 
PonePoster said:
The exact words the demon Kai said were, "I'm sure their power (The DRAGON BALLS themselves) are based in white magic, so I doubt a black wish like eliminating them will be accepted"

This is just telling us Shenron can't wish people dead because that's black magic
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No "their" here refers to Goku and co, because he also uses "them " to refer to the cat being eliminated

Either way, his thoughts shouldn't be taken as fact until we know if his assumption on ki being white magic has any merit

They didn't even know what ki was
 
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Jaakor48 said:
No "their" here refers to Goku and co, because he also uses "them " to refer to the cat being eliminated

Either way, his thoughts shouldn't be taken as fact until we know if his assumption on ki being white magic has any merit

They didn't even know what kinwaw
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The possibility of it being confirmed a great deal of key can resist negative effects is exciting tho
 
It just occurred to me--How does the Demon Hax work now? Because now every Namekian is a Demon. Which would mean they gain the ability to negate resurrection, right? And if you're a Demon Clansman on top, you also force your defeated foe into Limbo, right? Hm.
 
RedReaper616 said:
It just occurred to me--How does the Demon Hax work now? Because now every Namekian is a Demon. Which would mean they gain the ability to negate resurrection, right? And if you're a Demon Clansman on top, you also force your defeated foe into Limbo, right? Hm.
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What do you mean by negate resurrection? Where dose this come from?

The connection between the demon clansman and being a demon is weird and I hope it is explained
 
Darkmon_cns said:
What do you mean by negate resurrection? Where dose this come from?
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In the DBS Manga, it's stated that those killed by Demons prevent Resurrection via Angel, which is why Jiren needs the Super Dragon Balls/Power of an Eternal Dragon to bring back his Master.
Darkmon_cns said:
The connection between the demon clansman and being a demon is weird and I hope it is explained
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The Demon Clansman are seemingly a Demon Type based on morality. While you can be BORN a Demon, as they exist as a whole race within the Demon World, being a Demon Clansman is your alignment, being morally so evil your Ki literally is demonic and grants you auxiliary abilities (like forcing souls into Limbo, preventing the Nimbus from reforming, etc.) Then there is the final type of Demon, which are Living Manifestations of Pure Evil (Buu, Janemba) made from the thoughts and negativity of people. if there was a Demon pecking order--Living Evil > Genetically Demon > Demon Clansman.

At least for NOW. This all might change within Daima.
 
RedReaper616 said:
It just occurred to me--How does the Demon Hax work now? Because now every Namekian is a Demon. Which would mean they gain the ability to negate resurrection, right? And if you're a Demon Clansman on top, you also force your defeated foe into Limbo, right? Hm.
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that isn't right, they revived those killed by the Demon Clansman in OG DB
 
Omegabronic said:
that isn't right, they revived those killed by the Demon Clansman in OG DB
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Demon Clansman and Demon aren't the same, as far as I'm aware after Null walked me through how the Mazoku are treated differently. Demons are Dabura, Buu, etc. Clansman are Drum, Daimao Piccolo, etc. Also, it wouldn't matter, because Demons prevent specifically Angelic Resurrection, not all resurrection. Hence why Eternal Dragons can bring back their victims.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Demon Clansman and Demon aren't the same, as far as I'm aware after Null walked me through how the Mazoku are treated differently. Demons are Dabura, Buu, etc. Clansman are Drum, Daimao Piccolo, etc. Also, it wouldn't matter, because Demons prevent specifically Angelic Resurrection, not all resurrection. Hence why Eternal Dragons can bring back their victims.
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They're all sorta Namekians, though, so all the canon Demon Clansmen would also count as regular Demons, I believe.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
They're all sorta Namekians, though, so all the canon Demon Clansmen would also count as regular Demons, I believe.
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That's why I'm asking. How would this change the approach to Demonic Hax? Since this implies that Daimao Piccolo, 23rd TB Piccolo, and the rest of the Clansman get more Demon Hax.
 
Obviously, not just anyone can be a demon clansmen, otherwise frezia would have been evil enough to be one, and there's no indication of that well Cell is one- sense his kills were stuck in limbo (being the reason why they had to get new dragonballs) given the new reveal about namicans, and that all demon clansmen we know are descended from demons at the very least maybe you need a Demon bloodline? Like a tifling from dnd sorta thing?
 
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