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If it was a stomp, there wouldn't have been over 50 replies on this thread arguing for all the things Strange could do to win.
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Doctor Strange VS Lord Vile
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Gargoyle One said:
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He's fast enough to kill Strange before Strange completes his hand motions. But it's still only like a second faster. Max
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And then your biggest argument - which seems to be the only one, after all - is that Strange could do nothing because he would get killed before he could even think. Nice.Monarch Laciel said:
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Didn't you say he could just kill Strange by having a desire for him to die?
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Inconclusive FRA
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No, I said that Strange needs to think what to do, then do it, while Vile doesn't even need to think what to do before his shadows attack.
It's not "vile wants Strange to die -> Strange dies"
It's "vile wants Strange to die so shadows attack + Strange starts thinking what to do -> shadows stab Strange + Strange starts doing what he's decided on (probably light weapons based on precedent)"
Literally the only reason Vile wins is because he skips the "think what to do" stage and the shadows just go for it
It's not "vile wants Strange to die -> Strange dies"
It's "vile wants Strange to die so shadows attack + Strange starts thinking what to do -> shadows stab Strange + Strange starts doing what he's decided on (probably light weapons based on precedent)"
Literally the only reason Vile wins is because he skips the "think what to do" stage and the shadows just go for it
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So, Strange could do nothing.
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Because he's a second or less too slow
Not because there's nothing he can do to kill Vile
Get rid of that second and it'd probably be inconclusive.
And a single second or less difference between attacks getting off does not make a stomp
Not because there's nothing he can do to kill Vile
Get rid of that second and it'd probably be inconclusive.
And a single second or less difference between attacks getting off does not make a stomp
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Ok, this is getting out of control...
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Also, a thing. Vile's speed was upgraded so he could see Strange moving but, what about these shadows? They're not Vile, they're local shdows as you describe them, so, they shouldn't have Superonic speed, I bet.
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Speed is equalized
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Yes
Strange's speed = Vile's speed
But these shadows does not appear to be neither summoned by Vile nor Vile's depending.
Strange's speed = Vile's speed
But these shadows does not appear to be neither summoned by Vile nor Vile's depending.
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You bet wrong.
You are arguing semantics
You are arguing semantics
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Vile sounds like a good opponent for a certain 7-B whose High 6-A form is currently being spammed
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lol
Well, I'll just quit this post. I'm tired of trying to show tou this becomes a terrible stomp if Vile really can kill people by just havin such an idea.
Well, I'll just quit this post. I'm tired of trying to show tou this becomes a terrible stomp if Vile really can kill people by just havin such an idea.
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Speaking of which it's a lot less one sided then one of his other wins which also isn't a stomp.
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Technically, he dies dozens of times before doing anything and winning
Also, make this match
Also, make this match
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Whometh?Kepekley23 said:
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Kratoast
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Teleportation he's never done in combat and is not an in-character move to make.
Portals take even longer to get off than some of his other stuff.
Portals take even longer to get off than some of his other stuff.
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Actually, after updating the votes, Vile is at 7 now.
So...yeah.
So...yeah.
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Someone ought to update the profiles first, I think.
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Not saying Vile wins.
Shadow Manipulation is much stronger than Vile's normal AP, this is shown when he restrains three accelerator boosted magicians, even though just one, Kitana, is superior to him, he also caved in her skull, and would have ripped off her head.
Also these shadows blitzed Darquesse, even though vile wasn't that much faster than her, and were literally described as coming out of his chest like a piston. That last part doesn't mean it directly comes from him, as he's used it without it being produced by his body, like against the Accelerator boosted group, rather it's something that can be scaled to him.
Vile is also an extremely skilled fighter, he finessed the afformentioned accelerator boosted group without darkness, even though they were all superior to him.
Shadow Manipulation is much stronger than Vile's normal AP, this is shown when he restrains three accelerator boosted magicians, even though just one, Kitana, is superior to him, he also caved in her skull, and would have ripped off her head.
Also these shadows blitzed Darquesse, even though vile wasn't that much faster than her, and were literally described as coming out of his chest like a piston. That last part doesn't mean it directly comes from him, as he's used it without it being produced by his body, like against the Accelerator boosted group, rather it's something that can be scaled to him.
Vile is also an extremely skilled fighter, he finessed the afformentioned accelerator boosted group without darkness, even though they were all superior to him.
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- Wonders if Kitana's group has any good feats I could scale base Vile to...*
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If Spinosaurus's vote is either changed or invalidated and I somehow missed that, then go right ahead. Otherwise, no, it's not entirely unanimous.
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@Monarch
That's not the point, especially since that was normal Vile, the point was his Darkness is superior to his normal AP and Speed.
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Pretty sure it was invalidated.
Anyway, i'm going to vote Vile now, for my reasoning above + The other's reasoning.
So 8 - 1.
That's not the point, especially since that was normal Vile, the point was his Darkness is superior to his normal AP and Speed.
@MKoN
Pretty sure it was invalidated.
Anyway, i'm going to vote Vile now, for my reasoning above + The other's reasoning.
So 8 - 1.
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Exactly what do you think Vile's "normal" AP is? Shadows are his main form of attack, it is his "normal" attack potency.
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His punches are likely boosted by his armour, considering it's largely made of the same shadows he uses to attack.
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@King, technically, Spino said it's a stomp for Vile because "he gets autokilled". Even if not a vote, that still says that he no longer thinks Strange wins.
But I'll leave it open a bit longer anyway.
But I'll leave it open a bit longer anyway.
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It's a stomp. This shouldn't be added.
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As I've said, it's not
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No fight = stomp
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