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Welp, fuckit. Never did care about a match being added if it could be proven false afterwards.

Let's just hope someone else comes in and says something.
 
Oh.

Decent I guess. Just another Marvel movie.

Villain was underwhelming. Quality of humour varied from great to not-funny. Action scenes were fun. Music choices were odd but enjoyable.
 
Going with Vile for Monarch's reasons. Ah, btw, Monarch, I might be going to your wall later.
 
Strange should be able to move his hand as fast as Vile can think, so, while Vile invokes his shadows, Strange stops the time, and then...
 
"move his hand as fast as he can think"

No

Speed is equalised, and a single casual thought of "die" is always going to take less time than a complex hand motion. So the shadows are going to hit before the time stop.

And stopping time was never his in-character first move either.
 
Well, now I want you to show me Vile doing it with such a simple thought.

And about time stop being his first move, it was, yeah. As we can see, Strange doesn't care about the Time Rules.

Also, Mirror Dimension. To bring others in, he does only need to raise his hand.
 
Let's see.

First move: Laser weapons

First move: Laser shields

Literally the only time even using the Eye was his first move: When the universe was about to ******* end, and even then it was more of a slow into a rewind. That still took several seconds too long and the only reason he wasn't stabbed was because of how far away Kaecillieus was.

As for Vile, scaling to someone much much weaker and with much less experience

A thought flashed into her mind and she plunged her hand into her jacket pocket, sliding the ring onto her finger.

Shadows coiled around her and a great wave of darkness smashed into Nye and took it off its feat. The surgeon squealed in fear and Valkyrie slammed the wave to he floor. Nye struck the hard ground and bounced slightly.

Valkyrie went to walk towards him, but , like an eager servant, the shadows swept her up. She touched down beside Nye, and it scrambled, tried to run. She was vaguely aware of an intent, to simply stop him from fleeing, and then suddenly the shadows wrapped themselves around Nye's right leg, its long right leg, and wrenched.

Nye screamd as its leg snapped in a dozen places, and it fell to the ground.

"Please!" it called. "You don't know what you're doing!"

The shadows played with Valkyrie's hair.

"That's Necromancy!" Nye yelled. "But you're dead! It's death magic wielded by a dead person - you don't know what you're doing!"

"Fix me, or I'll let the shadows kill you"


All the bolded bits are showing where it happens based on simple intent rather than any complete thought to do it. In that last bit, it's made clear she's actively restraining the shadows from murdering Nye.

The moment the fight starts, Strange thinks "spell time" or whatever and goes for a spell and starts spinning his fingers. At the same time, Vile, who is perpetually in "omnicidal maniac mode" casually has the intent of "kill this guy" and without even needing to think "stab him with shadows", all the shadows in the area spontaneously impale Strange
 
So speed is equalized.

Average human reaction speed: 0.25 seconds

That should be the time Vile could think "die".

Average human speed 5 m/s?

Strange can move 1.25 m when Vile thinks "die". Doctor Strange just only raises his hand to bring others into the Mirror Dimension.

Voting Strange.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Let's see.

First move: Laser weapons

First move: Laser shields

Literally the only time even using the Eye was his first move: When the universe was about to ******* end, and even then it was more of a slow into a rewind. That still took several seconds too long and the only reason he wasn't stabbed was because of how far away Kaecillieus was.

As for Vile, scaling to someone much much weaker and with much less experience

A thought flashed into her mind and she plunged her hand into her jacket pocket, sliding the ring onto her finger.

Shadows coiled around her and a great wave of darkness smashed into Nye and took it off its feat. The surgeon squealed in fear and Valkyrie slammed the wave to he floor. Nye struck the hard ground and bounced slightly.

Valkyrie went to walk towards him, but , like an eager servant, the shadows swept her up. She touched down beside Nye, and it scrambled, tried to run. She was vaguely aware of an intent, to simply stop him from fleeing, and then suddenly the shadows wrapped themselves around Nye's right leg, its long right leg, and wrenched.

Nye screamd as its leg snapped in a dozen places, and it fell to the ground.

"Please!" it called. "You don't know what you're doing!"

The shadows played with Valkyrie's hair.

"That's Necromancy!" Nye yelled. "But you're dead! It's death magic wielded by a dead person - you don't know what you're doing!"

"Fix me, or I'll let the shadows kill you"


All the bolded bits are showing where it happens based on simple intent rather than any complete thought to do it. In that last bit, it's made clear she's actively restraining the shadows from murdering Nye.

The moment the fight starts, Strange goes for a spell and starts spinning his fingers. At the same time, Vile, who is perpetually in "omnicidal maniac mode" casually thinks "die" and all the shadows in the area spontaneously impale Strange
Strange only used the Eye because he knew he wasn't going to be stabbed. He is more intelligent than Vile and should be able to create a good strategy.

Also, you didn't reply to the Mirror Dimension situation.

And the delay of Strange's hand moves was most likely caused by his hands, which were still damaged. If this is Ragnarok Strange, his hands are not going to shake anymore.
 
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
So speed is equalized.

Average human reaction speed: 0.25 seconds

That should be the time Vile could think "die".

Average human speed 5 m/s?

Strange can move 1.25 m when Vile thinks "die". Doctor Strange just only raises his hand to bring others into the Mirror Dimension.

Voting Strange.
@Veloxt1r0koe Strange is faster. No one has debunked or even replied to my post yet.
 
More intelligent than vile? Considering Vile is just "really angry skulduggery with necromancy", I think not. And intelligence is useless if you get killed within seconds of the fight opening.

Mirror dimensions? You mean the ones requiring a hand raise? Oh, I wonder what the problem is with that - oh that's right. He dies before he can do it. And if he does, he's there too, and still gets impaled seconds later.

Unproven fan Theories aren't the best argument.

As for the speed thing, look at what I just posted. Vile doesn't need to think. Strange needs to decide what it is he wants to do, whether that's portals/weapons/time shenanigans, then start doing it. Vile on the other hand just needs to have a vague desire to have Strange dead, and the shadows will rip him apart. He doesn't need to think, or decide what he is going to do.
 
Also, you all are bringing up all these things that Strange could do. He could stop time. He could loop time so he doesn't die. He could push Strange into the mirror dimension.

But when you look at his track record, the number of times he doesn't do those things really outweighs the number of times he does. About the only thing he's done more than once is summoning slight weapons. Which would definitely get him killed here.
 
Okay, this is already entering the field of absurdity. You're saying that Strange will get killed before he could do anything. So, there would be no fight. Just me or it seems to be a stomp? - if Vile really is all that you describe.
 
Hardly. Just because one person's abilities get off faster than another doesn't mean it's a stomp.

Strange's abilities work just a mite too slow in this fight. That's all it comes down to. If the abilities were any faster, it might be inconclusive or Strange's win. But they aren't. So he dies
 
Incorrect.

The only deciding factor in this fight is that Vile's abilities work a second faster than Strange's. This fight could be ended in a second by either fighter. Vile's abilities just work a tiny bit faster. That's not a stomp.
 
First you say that Strange cannot even make a hand motion. Now you say that Vile's abilities are just a "tiny bit faster".
 
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