Do not fear, Crystal Gems! For I am here!

[Schnee_One]

Standard Battle Assumptions

And since the version wasn't specified it is prime

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Except in cases where you specify the version.

At least 6-C is still 6-C. There are two 6-C versions and SBA says strongest is used. I'm not seeing the issue here.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

@Wright

Dude, that story was great.


Anyway, I'm not sure how to vote yet.

 

[Pepper14832]

I'm not actually sure how Steven can win here since he's primarily a defesnive person in a fight. He only uses a sword when in Stevoniee and only every won fights by either accident, luck, or talking it out.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Pepper He turtle shells with his High 6-A durability bubble and shields and plays defensive until All Might exhausts himself and then knocks him out

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean wouldn't All Mighy just stop punching the shield after a bit?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What else can he do other than punch stuff?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

There's also that BFR thing Antoniofer mentioned, because All Might's strength would send something with the mass of Steven's bubble kilometers away horizontally.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Which Steven would stop with his descent regulation to prevent him from being flung more than a few meters away

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

He can do that without dropping his bubble? I don't think we've ever seen that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He did so in his fight against amethyst and even if he has to drop his bubble to do so he can just reform it instantly, again something he did against Amethyst

 

[Schnee_One]

What else can he do other than punch stuff?

Not punch and wait and see what his opponent does?

Just because that's what he can do doesn't mean he will do nothing but the one thing that's clearly not working

He punches for a bit, see's it isn't working, then stops punching

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Schnee And then what...? What can All Might do to win here?

 

[Schnee_One]

Not punch and then wait for Steven? Which is common sense when you do something and it's clearly not working?

That's a stalemate at the absolute best

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Waits for Steven to do what? Steven isnt an inherently offensive fighter, its completely in character for him to turtle shell

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

No, he didn't, the only time he used his bubble against Amethyst as when he blocked her fire, and then she used her whips to swing him round, and he stopped it by accidentaly using his spikes, he didn't levitate while using his bubble at any point in that scene.

Also, if he needs to drop the bubble, float to stop moving in the air, and then put the bubble back again, that gives All Might time to hit him with shockwaves, and he can just repeat until Steven realizes that this strategy isn't working and drops the bubble to attack or try something else.

 

[Schnee_One]

Waits for Steven to do what? Steven isnt an inherently offensive fighter, its completely in character for him to turtle shell

Guess it's a stalemate then

All Might punches the shield, realizes it's not working, then waits out.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo Speed is equalized and Steven can drop and reform his bubble instantly

 

[Schnee_One]

On second thought I just noticed AMs stamina is extremely high while Steven is average

Is that true? Or does it need to be revised?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If by "instantly" you means "takes a fraction of a second, which is more than enough for him to get hit", then yeah (which you likely do, since if it was literally "instantly", that would be infinite speed, since it would happen in the exact same instant with literally no time at all in between).

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes and if all Might is using ranged attacks with equalized speed Steven will have more than enough time to block them with his shield or form a bubble to block the attack

The shockwaves have to travel several meters in the time it takes Steven to think

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Speed equalized still makes projectiles move faster than the characters themselves; all ranged fighters would be useless if it didn't.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No actually, speed equalized equalizes the speed of projectiles

 

[Schnee_One]

On second thought I just noticed AMs stamina is extremely high while Steven is average

Is that true? Or does it need to be revised?

If Stevens stamina is average, even with the bubble shield up, he's the one on a time limit

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Wouldn't Steven's sheilds deflect the shockwaves back at All Might?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

No, it doesn't, that's why ranged fighters aren't completely useless when speed is equal.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Wright Yes

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo Yes it does

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Schnee The bubble doesnt rely in stamina, even if he falls asleep or passes out it will stay up

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Speed equalization makes so the two characters move at the exact same speed, but since the speed the projectiles move is faster than the speed the character moves, then the projectile is still faster.

 

[Schnee_One]

@Schnee The bubble doesnt rely in stamina, even if he falls asleep or passes out it will stay up

Him falling asleep or passing out for over an hour is KO

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Paulo No, speed equalized equalized ALL speeds with the exception of speed amps

With your logic, Steven blitzes by throwing his shield at Relativistic speeds

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

He could see that the "Child delinquent" is not really doing anything but defending, remember this is a mere Child and try to talk him out. He's a charismatic bastard very adept treating with distressed people.

If Steven buys it, he could go for a chop to the back of the neck or similar to make him pass out it he thinks it the best option. All Might is far from a muscle head, and unlikely to just keep waiting on Steven while he ain't retaliating and it's still just a child. But he severely hurt Bakugou and Izuku on their training exercise and he won't shy from pure muscle if he thinks Steven is a danger, consciously or not.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@LSir Steven's bubble would block it if he tries that, his bubble activates instinctively

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

So All Might can't even catch him by surprise... Not entirely sure how this isn't a mismatch.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

@Paulo No, speed equalized equalized ALL speeds with the exception of speed amps
With your logic, Steven blitzes by throwing his shield at Relativistic speeds

Steven's shield throw would still technically be faster than him, since it faster than him in canon (since a shield thrown by Steven can cover a certain distance faster than Steven can run that same distance), and since All Might has the exact same speed as Steven, then it would be faster than All Might.

Basically, the difference between Steven's shield and All Might is the exact same as the one between Steven's shield and Steven himself, since All Might and Steven are exactly as fast as each other.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Paulo my dude i think you need to make a Q&A thread about this because in all of the threads ive been on recently speed equal has equalized attack speed

 

[Pepper14832]

Doesn't Speed Equalized pretty much mean all speed is equalized? As in, ALL SPEED.


Speed Equalized doesn't affect Time Stop tho. I believe.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If we go by the logic you're using, then if a characrer has a gun, but the character itself is not as fast as a bullet, then the bullet would slowly float across the battlefield like it was in slow-motion.

Projectiles still travel across the battlefield fast, it's just that their speed is lowered alongside the characer's own speed, but they're still faster than the character itself.

 

[Schnee_One]

Guys

Make a separate thread and discuss there

Derailment levels are benign