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DMC - Serious hax downgrade.
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According to Acausality Page.
Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
Lets check the feats:
1 - Every demon can resist Beastheads fate hax.
2 - When gilver brings a demon world nexus that would turn the human realm into the demon world, both dante and gilver is unaffected by the the changes (Gilver is a demon, so everybody scales).
3 - Demons didnt care at all by time shenanigans and both worlds merging once again in DMC2.
4 - When the Beastheads started to make all laws of the human world go nuts, dante hasnt affected.
5 - Dante resists Precog later.
6 - Dante resists the dice game.
7 - Higher ranking demons (starting with mid tier of the verse) already have layers of resistance.
Everything seems fine, i dont see a reason why to disagree with type 4 acausality, both statements and feats agoes along.
If there is any feat i forgot, anybody is free to add.
Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
Lets check the feats:
1 - Every demon can resist Beastheads fate hax.
2 - When gilver brings a demon world nexus that would turn the human realm into the demon world, both dante and gilver is unaffected by the the changes (Gilver is a demon, so everybody scales).
3 - Demons didnt care at all by time shenanigans and both worlds merging once again in DMC2.
4 - When the Beastheads started to make all laws of the human world go nuts, dante hasnt affected.
5 - Dante resists Precog later.
6 - Dante resists the dice game.
7 - Higher ranking demons (starting with mid tier of the verse) already have layers of resistance.
Everything seems fine, i dont see a reason why to disagree with type 4 acausality, both statements and feats agoes along.
If there is any feat i forgot, anybody is free to add.
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Mirror World shenanigans maybe??
DMC2 is more than enough on this..
They can enter and exit circular loops of timelines without giving a shit.
But the precog and dice stuff will only apply to Dante...
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Ah yeah, that would count too.
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I argued more on a general sense.
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Ok so the very premise of your argument is wrong. Acausality gives those resistances, but those resistances do not give acausality.
As we've said, that is a caveat of the beastheads' abilities. They are not meant to affect demons, not that it is incapable of doing so due to their resistances.
What's that gotta do with acausality?
These are specifically to Dante (with the 2nd feat being still questioned). Other demons get affected so that's an anti-feat if you wanna argue that.
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We already had that dance, dozens of times in the thread you made, can you stop? It's tiring seeing that shit over and over and over only for you to still get going thinking "but im right!!!1!"
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I have to agree on fire for this one, just because you resist a few things doesn't net you Acasuality, if i resisted Precognition based on looking into the future does that net me type 2 Acasuality? No.
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And no arguements against it.....so yeah...
What are going on about second part??
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You kinda missed the point, i justifying the acausality type 4 with the resistance feats, acausality type 4 while everyone gets haxed is sketchy, the feats are there demostrating along with statements why acausality type 4 is legit.
The last time i heard, acausality type 4 CAN give those abilities it doenst give all those, thought i really want someone related to Acausality page to confirm.
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Type 4 Acasuality CAN give those resistances, that does not mean resisting casuality manipulation, fate manipulation, and Precognition nets type 4 Acasuality.
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Sounding like a broken record over this even though you have been debunked countless times isn't going to help.
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I know, but it is a flawed argument
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The dice game affecting demons is hardly a debunk for Acausality Type 4, the dice is made with demonic power which is AKA the same laws of cause and efecth that demons operate. So they being affected is not a problem, unless you gonna try to say that beings operating in the same laws of cause and efecth cannot fate hax eath other.
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The logic is more or less this
- You cant have acausality type 4 while being haxed right ?
- Then i show feats (showed in general, so it include some dante feats) related to acausality type 4.
The entire premise is arguing you cant have acausality type 4 without resistance feats, is like someone come to you and stated X character is Acausality type 4 while not having any feats.
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I'll be honest if this kind of thread has happened several times with the same exact recycled arguments used and with the only new arguments used to throw at the wall praying something will stick then perhaps the arguments are flawed.
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The thread that didn't have time to be concluded cus Glass closed it? Your point is what exactly? Also im not the only one who has asked for the proof on that in this thread.
Trying to argue with feats is the wrong part. You cannot support or argue for Acausality type 4 with feats, there is no such thing. Resistances no matter the case cannot give acausality. So stick to just statements as feats aren't gonna get anything.
And no, acausality type 4 "gives" those abilities not "can". If you're type 4 but get affected by fate hax that doesn't work on a different system, then you're just not acausal. You by default have those resistances if you are type 4.
That has nothing to do with type 4. You aren't type 4 cus you went somewhere where gravity pulls you up rather than down. Again without more specifics on what exactly is different (namely causality) it doesn't give acausality.
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Existing outside flow of time and different laws of reality is enough...
Efite just braught stuff that is proof of resistances that fit qualification to Acausality 4.
Efite just braught stuff that is proof of resistances that fit qualification to Acausality 4.
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Different laws of reality is unrelated.
Existing outside the flow of time, that wasn't in the arguments. The scan was "time flows faster/slower" not "demons exist outside the flow of time".
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Using that as an excuse isn't going to help when that particular point was tacled way before closure....
Then time to change all stuff on the wiki if thats the arguement, as if stronger hax don't exist....the same arguements you used for denying space-time resistance and got debunked....no use bringing them over here too...
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Instead of arguing in circles why not just ask the staff members that made the causality page to see if DMC’s statements cover the description of type 4.
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Idk who made/reworked acausality but we already have AKM saying that the current evidence isn't proof for acausality. So if anything, the DMC fans should just stop trying to push for it by now.
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Eehh...time to bring out the big guns I guess....I was relenting from using some extra stuff since this is more than enough...but okay....
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Anyways I'm going to call Wokistan, Antoniofer, and Agnaa here since they seem to at least have a good understanding of Acasuality.
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I think next time we will not just evolve to monke but Ape, will we evolve to be Saiyanjin?
On a serious note: it is wise to call staffs
On a serious note: it is wise to call staffs
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Agnaa isn't staff, they seem knowledgeable on Acasuality however.
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Not Agnaa, or you're going on the wall of shame or whatever he calls it. (basically don't call him for things he is uninterested in, there's a reason he refuses to become staff).
Go ahead with the other 2 though.
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Reject Modernity, return to Devil
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Uuuhhhh does anyone know how to recover deleted drafts of your comments... I was writing a huge one....I even saved it.....I switched pages a bit....came back and saw the draft is gone....wtf....
So how do you recover it??
So how do you recover it??
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you can't, it happens sometimes and its really ******* annoying, but you just can't.
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You don't, you don't recover your soul either from that. It actually hurts, i know the pain.
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I also hate it when that happens; and sometimes computers glitch to where I didn't save the highlighted text. I sometimes save it to letter.txt files if all else fails.
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Well back to drawing board it is then
.....what has my life become if am doing this past midnight
....but some stupid glitch isn't going to stop me...... I will persevere
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Thanks guys......good to know I am not the only victim....I'll create a backup txt file from now on.
.....what has my life become if am doing this past midnight....but some stupid glitch isn't going to stop me...... I will persevere...Thanks guys......good to know I am not the only victim....I'll create a backup txt file from now on.
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You are like a little baby, watch thisWell back to drawing board it is then
Thanks guys......good to know I am not the only victim....I'll create a backup txt file from now on.
Stays up until 4 AM browsing CRTs
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funnily enough i came across this CRT while browsing CRTs, also ive done that staying up all night, and then not sleeping the next day, so pahlease!
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