You also have dante attacking the soul as a common thing he does. Which again isn't something we've seen backed up in any circumstances as we've seen demons die when their souls are gone, especially when Mundus kills Griffon and he doesn't regenerate when his soul is destroyed. So there's something wrong here.
Yes he has soul hax. But we are saying the regeneration negation will extend beyond just the physical body and to the soul itself. He is causing damage to the soul and it is irreparable. When the soul is destroyed it would be impossible to come back.
If Dante is causing astral damage and and opponent soul is unable to heal it...that counts as regeneration negation on godly lvl.
I already explained how if boss demons have "X regeneration" Dante has always shown same lvl of regen negation. We already have example like Cerberus and Beowulf who have exact same regen as the examples of demon you mentioned.
Also we already do accept regeneration negation for Mundus btw...he was able to grievously wound Dante in their fight which he has a lot of trouble healing from.
Here's the thing, we have actual statements on the weapons being able to negate the healing factor for the demons specifically given what we have for PoC, Neo Generator doesn't have that at all and again contradicts the sparda heritage characters from scaling in the first place. The only thing we ever get is it sucks your soul away, unless you want to tell me that sucking one's soul away is a regeneration negation which you need to give proof of that as opposed to it being a blatant weakness, meaning no one that's a descendant
I didn't understand your point at all.
The regen neg statement applies to everything of demonic nature. Random fodder demonic material can be used for enhancing weapons and able to negate regen. Thats something demon hunters have been doing since whenever demon hunting profession started.
I don't know why this would only apply to PoC when the statement is direct lore fact for entire series.
Neo Generator is a demonic object, and not any ordinary material at that. Its got a good amount of justified hype and lore for it.
Also as far as sucking away the soul is concerned...we already knows it does so overtime(not that it would be a problem if it was just a soul rip) which means its sucking off the soul piecemeal causing damage on the soul itself. We have soul damage and regen neg statement for demonic material. So everything checks out.
Also the soul damage is represented by dwindling health...and when Dante is outside the influence of Generator he can just undo all the soul damage.
Again you're cherry picking the lore here if you're going to accept the frost demon's absolute zero stuff but ignore the Sin Scythe statements on ripping out one's soul, if you disregard the Sin Scythe statement you'd have to disregard the rest of the enemy files in 1 because you can't ignore one statement but keep the rest in the same source, especially when said statement isn't contradicted in any other mainline games. Also soul haxing has nothing to do with strength as it's literally a hax based move, not an AP move.
Then you didn't understand at all.
I never said disregard the lore. Read my comment again. I never denied demons having lore about having X,Y, Z hax/ability is wrong.
I said you insisting that fodders have
hax potency to bypass and affect resistance layer that Dante has is an glaring outlier. When you claim that a fodder has so much potency that he ignores so many layers of resistance that even demon gods wouldn't bypass it becomes a big issue.
Unnecessary at that when ""can kill"" statements are meant for players...not character. Do you seriously believe a fodder can kill Dante??
Being able identify what is lore and what is gameplay hints/instructions is very important.
Lets take you Frost example. We have lore statement for Absolute Zero for Frost. But we also have lore statements and feats of demons being completely unaffected by King Cerberus's Absolute Zero rooms.
We also have feats of Frosts unable to affect other demons which checks out with given lore and feats.
But still in game Protagonist gets frozen...even though they have feats and statements of not being affected at all.
Blatantly showing that character getting frozen is gameplay...not lore. In lore the character wouldn't get frozen in the first place.
Here's another example from DMC2.
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Why does the file tell Dante to use ""constant gunfire" and "elaborate melee attacks" to damage Golem when he can easily one shot it's ass with soul hax or cause irreparable damage to its body with any of his attacks??
You know cuz gameplay can't represent soul hax and regen neg for player. Its impossible. Do you really think this "constant gunfire" count as anti-feat now?? That will only happen if you take this gameplay tactic statement seriously.
No they're literally stated to be their souls, not a manifestation or a body, it's literally their own soul. Again why are we accepting this as 100% fact when nothing about the lore addresses why they're 3-D objects that normal people could touch?
Demons are
beings capable of becoming Devil Arms by either crushing them and gaining power over them or becoming friends with them. (Becoming a devil arm is a way for demons to survive in battle against stronger opponents but it forces them into servitude as they lack the power to fight back the one who defeated them, if a demon gets enough power to fight back then they will reform their original body and challenge their master once again. In the case of the series the devil arms we know of are incapable of that in any way since most if not all server under Dante's command.)
What exactly is a Devil Arm? As the scan above said (if you read it) is the manifestation of a devil's power or
soul taking a physical form. Some Devil Arms are born like that while others are created from existing demons (and all of them are conscious beings) and by the time of DMC5 we come to learn they are able to reform their bodies from this state again with one example being Balrog
who recognized Dante's power and decided to become his servant to become stronger and when he does he will challenge Dante to a fight again. This is unlike the lesser demons who need to posses nearby materials to create bodies as their power is too great they will end up corrupting and destroying their vessels. Basically High Ranking Demons are able to become Devil Arms (their souls taking a physical form) and from that creating their bodies again (from a physical manifestation of their souls back to their own bodies).
Both body and weapon are physical manifestations of demon soul.
Only difference between them is that one is body and one is weapon. Both physical.
Soul is
inside the body/weapon.
