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Disney Movie Discussion Thread
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yeah never seen Disney movies there lots of characters some ablilites/powers and AP we should Bring CRT?
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This article needs some extraneous details. Simba, alike the rest of the male leonine protagonists in the original "Lion King" film are no ordinary apex predators, but the literal blood descendants of a virtually almighty being named the Sky Father (a fictitious, leonine-like celestial deity of Disney lore; likely a composite character between the seemingly all-similar supreme demiurgic deities in African indigenous both mythologies & spiritualities/religions then the latter Abrahamic God, yet the composite distinction between each one - i.e. the indigenous African concept of supreme Creator and the Abrahamic deity - is only feasible because "The Lion King" like most Disney films bears some religious overtones pertaining to Christian esotericism & theology and a chiefly American viewership) , alluded all along the film franchise to possess gifts and abilities belong the reach of natural ordinance, likely as based on the abilities displayed in the original 1994 film only:
- Limited Animal/Mind Manipulation: in the iconic prologue scene of the 1994 animation film, it has been shown that at early sunrise, all the wildlife populating the Serengeti and its vicinities suddenly felt at unison the urge to crowd around the Pride Rock, instinctually drawn by a solemn need to assist and gloat altogether at the ceremonial birth annoucement of the newcoming heir of the Lion's Pride, while the lead singer is describing the very nature of that said call and how the population sensed the mighty sway of Simba' revelation-- as some form of powerfully symbiotic, transcendental calling from the very planet itself, that interweaves any breathing lifeform to each other; an aspect of the very Circle of Life itself.
Yet we may assume that the announcement has been made by the messengers of Mufasa across the kingdom, it is likely impossible the nature of that announcement has been made by any ordinary bird, swift quadruped or refined oral messenging network within various species of any sort, as the calling has been forthright announced as far as the Mount Kilimanjaro, located 313 kilometers away from the Serengeti savannah plains and alluded many times to belong to the Lion's Pride in the animation films. It is also noteworthy to underline that for the local ethnic groups of northern Tanzania in-real-life, the snowy mountain is a highly sacred natural landmark that does belong to no human, but to the gods and creators of humankind themselves as they made of its peak their consecrated abode on Earth... which stress out one more time the divine ancestry of the protagonistic royal clan in these films as only them can claims the mountain and all its territory as their birthright. In the song, the newborn crown prince is praised under deeply divine attributes, portrayed both metaphorically - and even literally, somehow - as the living embodiment of the Sky, Sun and above realm beyond. When Scar is around and overtly asserts his will, a gloomy atmosphere in the both emotional and meteorological senses of the word condensates on itself around, before to ultimately floods over the hearts of everyone present at the coronation of Scar. When Scar is ultimately defeated then motrally mauled down by the hyenas, the tension slowly fades away and Simba reasserts the order once posed by his father and forefathers before by calling out to both the exiled survivors and ancestors above to come back at home with a mighty roar.
In the book tale version of the film, it is alluded that every single animal across the (African) continent did heard and answered the call. In the conclusion of the film, it is alluded that the remaining survivors of the Lion's Pride population, scattered abroad by the the havoc generated by Scar, did heard the call for both the repatriation phase of all survivors and the announcement of the newcoming child of Simba & Nala, which once again prove my point about the unseen (whether extracognitive, hive-like ecosystmetic or spiritual somehow) connection linking the ruling clan with all its subjets ;
- Limited Weather Manipulation : under the rule of the wiseful and steadfast Mufasa, the Lion's Pride was almost constantly graced by favorable weather, sunny days and fertilizing rains, in stark contrast to the both scorched, forsaken territories of the hyenas in the first film then the exiled lioness pride in the second film, the neighboring deserts and the dried rivers, as if some fortunate set of circumstances - or rather, someone - was favoring the Lion's Pride more than the rest of the greater region. After Mufasa's assasination and Scar's nepotistic/fraticistic takeover on the Pride's Rock, the entire region seems to darken deeper into despair and literal stormclouds, the land turned over years into a barren giant wildlife cemetery similar to the elephant necropole where once dwelt the hyenas earlier in the film. When Simba defeats Scar and that the latter one is mortally mauled down by his own minions, the chaos immediatly stopped and it started to rain over the land for the first time in years. When Simba roared a call to the ancestors and survivors, the land progressively turned green again and the local weather recovered its once-blessed days. It is further show that the deceaded spirit of Mufasa, now a god nigh-indistincly fused with the greater Sky Father impersonate, held greater sway over the natural phenomenas and cycles, now fully capable to control light and darkness, weather, potentially the entire universe now as he made One with the Sky Father Himself ;
- Limited Earth Manipulation : for pretty much the same reasons abovementioned in the Limited Weather Manipulation section ;
- Voice Manipulation : their rare mystical roaring can instill piss-on-my-fur-and-run-away levels of heightened fear and inspiration over other apex predators, manipulate weather, calling out the dead and divine entities and even to some extent hold sway on the Circle of Life; a both biological, metaphorical and metaphysical system that transcends, threads and regulate every single lifeform on the planet let alone cosmos together ;
- Necromancy/Mediumship/Soul Summoning : How do you call someone who can communicate with spirits and gods, calling out his deceaded ancestors and bring back his own deceaded father (temporarily) between life and death to require guidance?? ;
- Mysticism : Kind of cliché'd for an animation film set in the midst of a Fantasy-world African region, but that is actually the case all along the story. Averted in-real-life by the fact that most indigenous African rulers are indeed, very versed in the spiritual fields of their respective cultures, laws & traditions ;
- Cosmic Manipulation/Limited Nigh-Omnipotence : As it has been mentioned in the film that the souls of every single ruler who died ascends to heaven and turn into stars, that the said rulers are all the blood descendants of a virtually omnipotent and omniscient god who oversee every single existing thing on Earth and beyond and that the current ruler may call them all out for guidance or important business that crucially require their divine inference (while not being Scar) , it practically make of Simba one of the technically most OP characters in both Disney lore, African folklore and let alone most fictions and mythologies assembled... he's basically Black Panther on much bigger 'roids (and less brains)!! ;
- Limited Fear Manipulation/Empathic Manipulation : being a clan of apex predators endowed by their supernatural ancestry with a fewer seemingly "superanimal" abilities which includes supernatural charisma able to sway over vaste - country-wide, even continent or likely planet-wide - distances, mystical roaring and a presence capable to frighten out of mercy even the most evil forces, it seems that the fear both Mufasa, Scar, Simba (and even Nala to a lesser extent) does respectivey inflicts over people it's just a whit over the spectrum of fear naturally instilled by feral mauling creatures. I mean... does you have ever seen a male alpha lion frighten out hyenas and other male alpha lions for their lives, whilst "coincidentally" a thunder roars and highlights the dramatic, frightful entrance?? ;
- Abstract Existence (type 3) : Like most pre-XXIth century Disney animation films protagonists and antagonists versed in mysticism, magic or simply any form of noble kinship whatsoever. Charming, Eric, Phillip and Peter Pan are the Quintessential Male Solar Saviors; Ursula, Maleficient, the Evil Stepmother and the Evil Witch are the Liliths and Jezebels or Chthonic embodiments of the Dark Feminine related to premodern ages and Prechristian sets of beliefs; Ariel, Cinderella, Snow-White and so on impesonate the evangelized reiterations of the earthly Sacred Feminine, unbonded away from its original chthonic wellspring; Beast is a less classical case of Faustian archetype in full redemption arc (the storytelling that really hard to give any semblance of redeeming qualities. I mean, he's not a hero-- but I disgress) and the list goes on and on.
In "The Lion King" , same classical patterns minus a few variations which somehow flirts with Near Eastern, Greek, Shakesparian and African archetypes: Mufasa is the Solomonic-like/Nimrod-like/Belus-like or Osirian-like figure of authority and wisdom who ascended into a personifed God-Father right after the fraticid downfall to the underworld, Scar is the Satanic/Typhonic/Sethian archetype whom jealously opposes and covets his authority, Simba is the rebellious and naive antihero who discovers his own immense potentiality after learn to believe in himself by turning into a Messianic/Zeus-like/Horus-like archetype, Sarabi is the Chthonic Queen or an Isis-like archetype secretly coveted by Scar, while Nala is the renewed Sacred Queen or Renewed Hathor. The oasis-dwelling Timon & Pumbaa beyond the desert are the nymph Amalthea and her goat or the Pygmy god Bes and his nymph-maidens, Rafiki is both Gaea and the Titanid allies of Zeus or the god of wisdom Thoth, then the ultimate victory of Simba over his uncle bears striking similarities to the ultimate victory of Horus over his uncle Set or Zeus over firstly the Titans then latter the antigodly monster Typhon. We can even transpose the exact same tropes with the science-fiction novel "Dune" and it give us the exact, same pattern (except that Simba didn't turned out to be a megalomaniacal all-wise prick... sort of?) ;
- Transmutation : their deceaded souls turn into stars and is it hinted either they or Mufasa fuse somehow with the Sky-Father, a virtually omnipotent and omnipresent creator god who oversee and rules the entire cosmos ;
- Divine Empowerment : the inconsistency of their powers let to suggest the Lion Kings cannot ever use their divine endowments at their will, that they might have been to some extent limited for unknown reasons or that their mortal nature simply cannot bear such outerworldly essence for too long. Sometimes, they are all but average alpha and beta lions, but sometimes they are more-but-lions. Simba have to call out his ancestors when his supernatural powers manifests themselves and it is likely that Mufasa has to do the same during his living days as a king. However, it seems their superanimal nature may manifests whilst undertook by deep emotions or factors of extreme stress ; which may explains why Scar, a character greatly unfavored by his own pedigree on every sense of the word, can bear such a gloomy aura while asserting his authority or nefariously affects the very Cycle of Life over the Lion's Pride (both physically and metaphysically speaking) . When you think that under their uncorporeal forms, these characters while dying may ascend into a higher plane of existence, turning into stars and playing to God on Earth simply because one of all of them did actually fused with Him... no wonder why the true extent of their powers are severely dampened beneath their earthly incarnations or otherwise, the Pride's Land wouldn't be the only place on that little blue rock spinning over the yellow Sun to worry about Scar's delusions of grandeur and thirst for absolute power...
- Limited Animal/Mind Manipulation: in the iconic prologue scene of the 1994 animation film, it has been shown that at early sunrise, all the wildlife populating the Serengeti and its vicinities suddenly felt at unison the urge to crowd around the Pride Rock, instinctually drawn by a solemn need to assist and gloat altogether at the ceremonial birth annoucement of the newcoming heir of the Lion's Pride, while the lead singer is describing the very nature of that said call and how the population sensed the mighty sway of Simba' revelation-- as some form of powerfully symbiotic, transcendental calling from the very planet itself, that interweaves any breathing lifeform to each other; an aspect of the very Circle of Life itself.
Yet we may assume that the announcement has been made by the messengers of Mufasa across the kingdom, it is likely impossible the nature of that announcement has been made by any ordinary bird, swift quadruped or refined oral messenging network within various species of any sort, as the calling has been forthright announced as far as the Mount Kilimanjaro, located 313 kilometers away from the Serengeti savannah plains and alluded many times to belong to the Lion's Pride in the animation films. It is also noteworthy to underline that for the local ethnic groups of northern Tanzania in-real-life, the snowy mountain is a highly sacred natural landmark that does belong to no human, but to the gods and creators of humankind themselves as they made of its peak their consecrated abode on Earth... which stress out one more time the divine ancestry of the protagonistic royal clan in these films as only them can claims the mountain and all its territory as their birthright. In the song, the newborn crown prince is praised under deeply divine attributes, portrayed both metaphorically - and even literally, somehow - as the living embodiment of the Sky, Sun and above realm beyond. When Scar is around and overtly asserts his will, a gloomy atmosphere in the both emotional and meteorological senses of the word condensates on itself around, before to ultimately floods over the hearts of everyone present at the coronation of Scar. When Scar is ultimately defeated then motrally mauled down by the hyenas, the tension slowly fades away and Simba reasserts the order once posed by his father and forefathers before by calling out to both the exiled survivors and ancestors above to come back at home with a mighty roar.
In the book tale version of the film, it is alluded that every single animal across the (African) continent did heard and answered the call. In the conclusion of the film, it is alluded that the remaining survivors of the Lion's Pride population, scattered abroad by the the havoc generated by Scar, did heard the call for both the repatriation phase of all survivors and the announcement of the newcoming child of Simba & Nala, which once again prove my point about the unseen (whether extracognitive, hive-like ecosystmetic or spiritual somehow) connection linking the ruling clan with all its subjets ;
- Limited Weather Manipulation : under the rule of the wiseful and steadfast Mufasa, the Lion's Pride was almost constantly graced by favorable weather, sunny days and fertilizing rains, in stark contrast to the both scorched, forsaken territories of the hyenas in the first film then the exiled lioness pride in the second film, the neighboring deserts and the dried rivers, as if some fortunate set of circumstances - or rather, someone - was favoring the Lion's Pride more than the rest of the greater region. After Mufasa's assasination and Scar's nepotistic/fraticistic takeover on the Pride's Rock, the entire region seems to darken deeper into despair and literal stormclouds, the land turned over years into a barren giant wildlife cemetery similar to the elephant necropole where once dwelt the hyenas earlier in the film. When Simba defeats Scar and that the latter one is mortally mauled down by his own minions, the chaos immediatly stopped and it started to rain over the land for the first time in years. When Simba roared a call to the ancestors and survivors, the land progressively turned green again and the local weather recovered its once-blessed days. It is further show that the deceaded spirit of Mufasa, now a god nigh-indistincly fused with the greater Sky Father impersonate, held greater sway over the natural phenomenas and cycles, now fully capable to control light and darkness, weather, potentially the entire universe now as he made One with the Sky Father Himself ;
- Limited Earth Manipulation : for pretty much the same reasons abovementioned in the Limited Weather Manipulation section ;
- Voice Manipulation : their rare mystical roaring can instill piss-on-my-fur-and-run-away levels of heightened fear and inspiration over other apex predators, manipulate weather, calling out the dead and divine entities and even to some extent hold sway on the Circle of Life; a both biological, metaphorical and metaphysical system that transcends, threads and regulate every single lifeform on the planet let alone cosmos together ;
- Necromancy/Mediumship/Soul Summoning : How do you call someone who can communicate with spirits and gods, calling out his deceaded ancestors and bring back his own deceaded father (temporarily) between life and death to require guidance?? ;
- Mysticism : Kind of cliché'd for an animation film set in the midst of a Fantasy-world African region, but that is actually the case all along the story. Averted in-real-life by the fact that most indigenous African rulers are indeed, very versed in the spiritual fields of their respective cultures, laws & traditions ;
- Cosmic Manipulation/Limited Nigh-Omnipotence : As it has been mentioned in the film that the souls of every single ruler who died ascends to heaven and turn into stars, that the said rulers are all the blood descendants of a virtually omnipotent and omniscient god who oversee every single existing thing on Earth and beyond and that the current ruler may call them all out for guidance or important business that crucially require their divine inference (while not being Scar) , it practically make of Simba one of the technically most OP characters in both Disney lore, African folklore and let alone most fictions and mythologies assembled... he's basically Black Panther on much bigger 'roids (and less brains)!! ;
- Limited Fear Manipulation/Empathic Manipulation : being a clan of apex predators endowed by their supernatural ancestry with a fewer seemingly "superanimal" abilities which includes supernatural charisma able to sway over vaste - country-wide, even continent or likely planet-wide - distances, mystical roaring and a presence capable to frighten out of mercy even the most evil forces, it seems that the fear both Mufasa, Scar, Simba (and even Nala to a lesser extent) does respectivey inflicts over people it's just a whit over the spectrum of fear naturally instilled by feral mauling creatures. I mean... does you have ever seen a male alpha lion frighten out hyenas and other male alpha lions for their lives, whilst "coincidentally" a thunder roars and highlights the dramatic, frightful entrance?? ;
- Abstract Existence (type 3) : Like most pre-XXIth century Disney animation films protagonists and antagonists versed in mysticism, magic or simply any form of noble kinship whatsoever. Charming, Eric, Phillip and Peter Pan are the Quintessential Male Solar Saviors; Ursula, Maleficient, the Evil Stepmother and the Evil Witch are the Liliths and Jezebels or Chthonic embodiments of the Dark Feminine related to premodern ages and Prechristian sets of beliefs; Ariel, Cinderella, Snow-White and so on impesonate the evangelized reiterations of the earthly Sacred Feminine, unbonded away from its original chthonic wellspring; Beast is a less classical case of Faustian archetype in full redemption arc (the storytelling that really hard to give any semblance of redeeming qualities. I mean, he's not a hero-- but I disgress) and the list goes on and on.
In "The Lion King" , same classical patterns minus a few variations which somehow flirts with Near Eastern, Greek, Shakesparian and African archetypes: Mufasa is the Solomonic-like/Nimrod-like/Belus-like or Osirian-like figure of authority and wisdom who ascended into a personifed God-Father right after the fraticid downfall to the underworld, Scar is the Satanic/Typhonic/Sethian archetype whom jealously opposes and covets his authority, Simba is the rebellious and naive antihero who discovers his own immense potentiality after learn to believe in himself by turning into a Messianic/Zeus-like/Horus-like archetype, Sarabi is the Chthonic Queen or an Isis-like archetype secretly coveted by Scar, while Nala is the renewed Sacred Queen or Renewed Hathor. The oasis-dwelling Timon & Pumbaa beyond the desert are the nymph Amalthea and her goat or the Pygmy god Bes and his nymph-maidens, Rafiki is both Gaea and the Titanid allies of Zeus or the god of wisdom Thoth, then the ultimate victory of Simba over his uncle bears striking similarities to the ultimate victory of Horus over his uncle Set or Zeus over firstly the Titans then latter the antigodly monster Typhon. We can even transpose the exact same tropes with the science-fiction novel "Dune" and it give us the exact, same pattern (except that Simba didn't turned out to be a megalomaniacal all-wise prick... sort of?) ;
- Transmutation : their deceaded souls turn into stars and is it hinted either they or Mufasa fuse somehow with the Sky-Father, a virtually omnipotent and omnipresent creator god who oversee and rules the entire cosmos ;
- Divine Empowerment : the inconsistency of their powers let to suggest the Lion Kings cannot ever use their divine endowments at their will, that they might have been to some extent limited for unknown reasons or that their mortal nature simply cannot bear such outerworldly essence for too long. Sometimes, they are all but average alpha and beta lions, but sometimes they are more-but-lions. Simba have to call out his ancestors when his supernatural powers manifests themselves and it is likely that Mufasa has to do the same during his living days as a king. However, it seems their superanimal nature may manifests whilst undertook by deep emotions or factors of extreme stress ; which may explains why Scar, a character greatly unfavored by his own pedigree on every sense of the word, can bear such a gloomy aura while asserting his authority or nefariously affects the very Cycle of Life over the Lion's Pride (both physically and metaphysically speaking) . When you think that under their uncorporeal forms, these characters while dying may ascend into a higher plane of existence, turning into stars and playing to God on Earth simply because one of all of them did actually fused with Him... no wonder why the true extent of their powers are severely dampened beneath their earthly incarnations or otherwise, the Pride's Land wouldn't be the only place on that little blue rock spinning over the yellow Sun to worry about Scar's delusions of grandeur and thirst for absolute power...
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Not wanting to derail, but did anyone watch the new episodes of TLG?
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