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I'm cool with an incon....for cartoon Discord. I wouldn't have cared if it was IDW from the start. Swapping over to the comic after the cartoon already had a decent incon just feels like a slap to the face.
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Is that a vote my fellow Wikier?RicardoSama said:Is this an INCON???
I changed it back to Cartoon Discord yesterday. I figured you had enough good arguments for him.Lightbuster30 said:I'm cool with an incon....for cartoon Discord. I wouldn't have cared if it was IDW from the start. Swapping over to the comic after the cartoon already had a decent incon just feels like a slap to the face.
Angel can you go more in depth on this part of the thread I think knowing more about this would explain why we switched in the first place.Angeltripper said:He can use it via thought. Though with Joker's Fate Manip + Resistance to PN, Discord may be more inclined to try Power Null and fail. I'm not sure how Joker's Fate Manip actually works though.
In character, Discord typically goes for snaps when using his magic, but has shown the ability to use his magic via thought. When Discord is bloodlusted, it's assumed that he will use a thought instead of a snap. But yeah, we should definitely get more input from the Persona Supporters about the PN.Multipize said:Angel can you go more in depth on this part of the thread I think knowing more about this would explain why we switched in the first place.Angeltripper said:He can use it via thought. Though with Joker's Fate Manip + Resistance to PN,
just ignore the fate manipulation.
As long as were still using Cartoon Discord I'll admit I don't think it's a stomp rather just a realistically hard fight for discord
I will vote joker because Death Hax and resitance to power null
Can we remove the power null from his profile cause that's definitley not power nullSmashkabab said:Joker resists Power Null vía Forget, which is memory manipulation. Other forms of Power Null exist in Royal's final boss, but either Joker doesn't resist that, or the timer on that Power Null is a result of such resistance. In any case, without resist to the final boss' Power Null, Joker shouldn't have any resistance at all as far as this fight is concerned.
If Discord's Power Null is just that, without any extra strings attached, and without Joker's potential resistance, I think it should hit. If Discord just thinks and power-null happens, plus the bloodlust, plus the chaos manipulation, this should be a stomp. I say either remove Discord's bloodlust to give Joker a fighting chance, or Discord wins by thinking Joker to death. As things stand right now, this is a haxstomp of the highest order.
That is how forget worksIeMrKerf said:So, it is a powernull via the fact that he forgets his abilities or..?
If it keeps you from using magic, like Personas, yes, I believe it is. Forget has no effect on a person's knowledge of how to fight physically, or that they SHOULD be fighting, it just makes you forget how to use your Persona. Therefore, magic.MrKerf said:If someone will hit my head and I'll forget how to fight, is it power nullification?
You can't use it because you forgot how. Not because you can'tSmashkabab said:If it keeps you from using magic, LIKE PERSONAS, yes, I believe it is. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Nullification?mobile-app=falseMrKerf said:If someone will hit my head and I'll forget how to fight, is it power nullification?
Is Joker becoming not low 2-C?/Milly Rocking Bandit said:This might be Joker's last match as a Low 2-C, and before the forum change. Anyways, does Joker have Satanael here?
Not anytime soon don't worry about that right nowZephyrosOmega said:Is Joker becoming not low 2-C?Milly Rocking Bandit said:This might be Joker's last match as a Low 2-C, and before the forum change. Anyways, does Joker have Satanael here?
Unless you can explain forget without saying forget which would make it Memory Manipulation than your edit changes nothingSmashkabab said:If it keeps you from using magic, like Personas, yes, I believe it is. Forget has no effect on a person's knowledge of how to fight physically, or that they SHOULD be fighting, it just makes you forget how to use your Persona. Therefore, magic.MrKerf said:If someone will hit my head and I'll forget how to fight, is it power nullification?
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power_Nullification?mobile-app=false
Edit: Editing to better explain what I mean.
Using his third eye Joker finds out Discord's not a shadow so he takes aim Discord notices him. Ren starts to shoot and gets his gun doesn't do anything. Joker gets power nulled and charismas discord into giving him his powers back then he tries different elemental spells (or makes another gun) depending on which one he's weak to and then eventually death haxs himMrKerf said:So, bloodlusted Discord is stomp.
Not bloodlusted Discord is still starting with Powernull tho.
What is Ren starting with again? And can he one-shot Discord?