>Because the stands can in fact interact with physical objects but not Quen
Uh, pretty sure that's a fallacy, that or you're wording your point wrong. If a Stand can
selectively interact with an object, doesnt mean that a forcefield can stop them. You're drawing a conclusion from two unrelated pieces of information.
>You've just proven me that stands much like wraiths can phase whenever they want and where ever they want and can interact with objects whenever they please but not a single wraith in the entierty of the games and books has ever phased through quen or even managed to break it
Yes, I did prove Stands can phase through basically whatever they want despite your initial contradictory claims. Yes, except here's the issue with that. Stands arent wraiths, they may seem similiar on paper but Stands can even phase through what would be the JoJo equilavent of wraiths. stands arent
just life energy or spiritual, not even the spiritual, like ghosts and revenants can interact with Stands, with one major exception (But said exception isnt a ghost nor revenant, in fact it's made quite clear it's neither but rather an inescapable law, we to this day do not know what it is). Just because something like a Wraith can't phase through it doesnt mean something with such potent intangibility that not even things similar in nature like Ghosts, which are also capable of phasing, can stop a Stand. The only way this wouldnt be true is if Wraiths have shown to be untouchable by things like ghosts.
>Quen is made from geralt's life force as you might call it much like the stands in
JJBA
That line has been retconned (And then murdered and burned Post Part 5), that line was said when Stands were meant to be an evolved form of a type of Hamon, which is what Hamon is, life energy. (It's also why the Kanji for Stands early on is literally Ghostly Ripple/Hamon, it was meant to be the next step above Hamon but was quickly changed). Using an out of date line from the first debut of a Stand before the rules were established fully isnt exactly making a case for yourself.
>Magic in witcher 3 in general is directly tied with users life force and it's shown when that force is drawn out the user either
feels dizzy or
outright collapses much like JJBA too
Good for the Witcher then, if we were using Hamon you'd have a point, or a Stand like Hermit Purple which is based on Hamon, but we aren't. Also
Like JJBA too? You still going on about Stands being used for prolonged periods of time drain a user's energy when that has literally never been the case unless using a super specific special power like Gently Wheeps (And even then it doesnt drain stamina, only Stand Power, making the Stand temporarily a bit weaker or needing a cool down of a few seconds) but rather the opposite has been shown to be true, with Stands being active for increasingly long periods of time with no visible or even implied hinderance. Unless you're talking about the damage to a Stand reflects onto a user. Which isnt why that's a thing, false analogy, not a comparable example between two different sets of power. Damage reflects onto the user because Stands are a facet of the soul, and in JoJo, damage to the soul reflects onto the body as well, it's an evolution of that. Stands just have the added benefit of, unlike ordinary souls in JoJo like Reimi or Yoshiro, are immune to nearly everything in their verse except other Stands and things imbued with Stand energy, like Mista's gun.
>Signs are essentially stands that are created by witchers and there isn't any case when a stand has ever phased through another stand to directly attack their users now has there
Ignoring the false equilavence and how that isnt the case at all, not how it works. Stands are intangible to ghosts and normal souls, which is the proper comparison, if the things The Witcher has is analogous with things that Stands cant be harmed by, the result would be the opposite of your conclusion. Quen has stopped things that are equilavent to ghosts, now if Stands were equal with ghosts you'd have a point but no, not even intangible souls can harm a Stand, only Stands within JoJo, can harm a Stand, not even youkai, revenants or ghouls (all of which exist in JoJo). Also I'm not even sure that's entirely true either, given Diver Down has phased into a Stand before and contrary to popular belief, his ability is actually storing attacks and energy into objects and releasing it at a later time and treating the objects he phases into as malleable like a liquid (hence the dive part).
>So no, the world cannot phase through quen and because of quens ability to keep even wraiths out of it's range and having the same source of creation has the stands no i don't think dio will ever be able to time stop and muda geralt
Just because you say it doesn't mean you're right. Witcher magic and Stands don't have the same source of creation, Hamon is technically closer to life force than Stands are.You think Dio would never be able to is moot as well, Dio's faster on the draw here, he can get time stop out, especially in character (given while High it's the very first thing he does, it's also the first thing he does when trying to kill an opponent, he doesnt even hint that he's stopping time if his opponent isnt already aware of it as well), faster than Geralt can get Quen out which looking through all the footage I've found, always has him doing a bit of a hand motion. Not that it would matter, dont know if you picked up on this but given I said so as much as 4 times now, The World being capable of phasing through Quen or not is a 50/50, there's not enough info either or. Also I'm not even sure that's 100% true, looking through footage and walkthroughs, pretty sure I've seen Wraiths clip through Quen or fly through it immediatly after attacking, which I can't tell if it's a glitch, it being a matter of which state the Wraith is in (Given they have two explicit forms, physical and non-corporal) or something else entirely. I'd appreciate it if you could possibly supply an example of Quen blocking a Wraith in it's non-corporal state as well as it simply moving through/past Geralt in that form.
Although I've been looking into Wraiths there seems to be a bit of discrepancy between being non-corporal and manifesting physically, because they have two clearly defined states. Also why does the Witcher Wiki explicitly say Quen can't block physical damage from things like punches (Even citing a source, Last Wishes)? I'm just gonna assume it's wrong though given from what I've researched it clearly does, but one thing I did notice though is that Quen can only take so many hits. While it protects against hits with little to no issue, it can only deflect so many hits, it isnt a
what can break it but rather
how many can it take till it breaks, which is like what? Ten
distinct hits? I dont know why nobody has bothered to mention that Quen while it would protect Geralt from basically any damage given the tier, it only does so so many times before being needed to reapply or recharged, and that's kinda a huge flaw against someone who can hit it countless times within a time stop or stop time the moment it wears out but before it can be recharged or reapplied. I also want to point out, according to the profile.
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Weaknesses: Lethal injuries that would otherwise kill a man take him months to recover. Is quite honorable in battle and
rarely uses some of his Witcher signs like Quen or Axii unless it greatly fits the situation and is normally rather willing to
start the fight with his swordsmanship.
As well as his standard tatic section. Which explains that Quen usually only comes out in character against opponents with aoe or long ranged magic/attacks.
There's a huge chance Geralt may not even use Quen, at least not till he thinks he either absolutely needs to or thinks it would be extremely beneficial but that's the problem, High Dio leads with his wincondition, time stop (And given they start within eyesight range, that's extremely dangerous), if Geralt opts to not even use his best chance at survival then that's a pretty huge issue outlined directly on the profile and is even considered his weakness. And do note, Geralt isnt aware Dio can stop time or he has a Stand, as far as Geralt is concerned he's fighting a homoerotic buff dude with a banana hammock, he may be cautious but he's not gonna assume the worst and definitely not a fisticuff time stopping invisible buff dude. Although I still stand by my point of most Stands possibly being able to phase anyway. But that's a completey moot point if Quen may not even come out till it's to late or Quen being only able to protect so many times in one go.
