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The whole point was basically to show that, he was never his mother, it really was just Steven all along.Sir Ovens said:I freaking love how the whole show has been leading up to "Steven is a fusion of himself".
And to think, it all started with people thinking that Rebecca ripped off Dragon Ball.
Great to know that I'm not the only one that thinks "feel bad for the people who have murdered millions" idea is really dumb.Assaltwaffle said:@Torlikoff
Yep. It's that kind of hyper-shallow and forced garbage writing that made me give up on SU. It tries to be all emotional and deep when really the characters are hardly characters at all and everything is surface level. Feels like the writers are afraid to step out of the kiddie pool for whatever reason.
I mean, forgiving someone for doing something that's bad without forgetting what they did has been a constant theme in the show.Holyhotsauce said:Great to know that I'm not the only one that thinks "feel bad for the people who have murdered millions" idea is really dumb.Assaltwaffle said:@Torlikoff
Yep. It's that kind of hyper-shallow and forced garbage writing that made me give up on SU. It tries to be all emotional and deep when really the characters are hardly characters at all and everything is surface level. Feels like the writers are afraid to step out of the kiddie pool for whatever reason.
Assalt, I agree, and I don't feel sympathy for that. But let me ask you one question, what else could Steven have done in that situation exactly?Assaltwaffle said:@CinnabarManx
Someone who is capable of extinguishing races like candles will not be talked down at all, whether or not the evils he/she has committed are unforgivable.
Also you can't remember what the Diamonds did and still feel any sympathy for them. Hundreds of planets obliterated; billions, if not trillions, murdered heartlessly. Even if in the end White, Blue, and Yellow didn't learn compassion for anyone but Pink. They learned to love and accept one of their closest family members. Congratu-freaking-lations, you now are on par with almost every murderer and genocidal maniac throughout history.
Cause if she died it would've been bad for everyone.The real cal howard said:Why is it that white colored Space Napolehitlers are consistently allowed to live?
Ohhh, I get it now lol.The real cal howard said:I was more or less making a joke about Frieza alongside White Diamond...
Y'all, about a children's show about self love and acceptance: how do I make this way more complicated than it is?Assaltwaffle said:@CinnabarManx
While it's sad that the corrupted gems would have to stay corrupted, that's the cost of doing wrong. Unless you're some magic space being you can't reverse planetary genocide. Also that's still only gems, not the beings they've destroyed.
Even if the gems are all healed, they are still totalitarian leaders that will wipe out entire planets. Steven traded the corruption of several hundred/thousand gems for the inevitable lives of billions more sentient beings.
Steven already wore the strongest plot armor in history with his half-gem self managing to stop White's attacks.
Also there is a way to do it: the gem ship mecha or his mental powers. Either he could use the ship to destroy her or he could go with the indirect approach and use the indirect approach to beat White from the inside out by either destroying or sealing her consciousness, if you don't want to go the full killing route.
Steven's "whole character" and the "message" is stupid, unrealistic, and idealistic. Sometimes you have to make hard and violent choices for the greater good. You can't talk down people like Osama Bin Laden, Hilter, or Joseph Stalin, all of whom pale in comparison to White when it comes to tainted mindset. You can fight fire with fire if that fire is subsequently extinguished. Look at modern Germany or any country with a now killed/executed leader. Most are not still undergoing problems or the deaths of those leaders themselves did nothing but serve a better future.
The view that killing is never the right answer is naive.