Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 8

[Twellas]

Thanks mate Any new info about the calcs?

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Nope.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

So will Nero get resurrection via Yamato?

 

[Twellas]

honestly i don't think we have enough info about it to be completely sure, yamato was never stated to be able to resurrect the dead and this might very well be a case of PIS

 

[Sorvoe551]

@Killah

So I had to explain myself to Ant over changing the pages of Nero, Vergil, and Lady because of our age findings. Hopefully he approves it. Also, I changed DMC2 age from 33-35 to 31-33 because Before the Nightmare takes place 10 years after 2 and we found Dante is 41-43 during 5.

But once again, I found more details that may change our findings. Studying Before the Nightmare, the 6 year time gap makes sense, so yeah, ignore my previous comment about that. 41-42 still holds strong

 

[Ogbunabali]

You don't have to change the age now. That can be done easily when they are updated with DMC5 and the new statistics.

 

[Twellas]

I mean, age is literally the least of our problems right now, there is a fuckton of stuff to calc and consider

 

[Dienomite22]

Oh yeah Nero should have Homing Attack with Pasta Breaker, Punch Line and Summon Swords, same with Dante's Summond Swords and Faust Hat and King Cerberus's electric cloud move that follows enemies(Forgot what it's called).Will bring up more if I find it.

 

[Twellas]

Oh, and how can we classify Dante creating a meteor with Faust?

 

[Dienomite22]

According to the DMC5 GDC presentation they also called SDT, Sin Majin Dante

 

[Dienomite22]

DMC5 has sold 2 Million copies in a little under 2 weeks, which is at least 120 million dollars not counting deluxe or collector's edition.

Congrats Itsuno and co

 

[ZERO7772]

Wished they break the 3 million wall but it should take no time

Congrats Itsuno and Capcom!

 

[Ogbunabali]

What are we rating Griffon, Shadow and Nightmare?

 

[ZERO7772]

Dunno. The three pets solo about everything in V path except for 1-2 demons through the story so I think they should scale to the top demons.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Well they defeated Nidhogg, Elder Geryon Knight and the mirages of Goliath, Artemis and Cavaliere Angelo. Not to mention they weren't stomped immediately when they saw Dante, so that should put them weaker than casual base Dante?

I'm not sure what exact tier that would be though.

 

[Twellas]

we should focus on the MCs first imo

 

[Ogbunabali]

Their profiles are pretty much done.

 

[Twellas]

only a single feat was calc'd, there is still like 4 to go

 

[Revan_Laha]

Vergil got AIDS from the blood of the Qlipoth tree

 

[Twellas]

Vergil got AIDS from the blood of the Qlipoth tree

You got this from Spardaposting, didn't you?

 

[Revan_Laha]

You got this from Spardaposting, didn't you?

Yup dear

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Cavaliere is 7-B scalling directly from Trish

And V's summons can defeat him

I honestly don't know about multipliers in this wiki, sometimes it is accepted, but I don't think that the damage on gameplay should be enough, it's not something stated like Kaioken from Dragon Ball, which is 20X

Also, watching the cutscene agai, it doesn't look like resurrection, since Nero didn't really died in this scene

And oh, i'm okay with the ages o/

 

[Ogbunabali]

So we're scaling the familiars to 7-B?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I see no reason to scale them to another tier

Cavaliere Angelo scales to Trish, and she's 7-B

We also have the fact that they possibly scale to DMC1 bosses

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Aren't those copies which V fights stated to be weaker than the real things?

 

[Ogbunabali]

Alright just checking. Made Urizen and V profiles, tell me what you think. I still need renders tho.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Even if they are stated to be weaker, they have a 7-B feat for defeating Cavaliere

OG Griffon was stronger than Trish, so DMC5 Griffon fighting someone who scales to her still makes sense even if he is weaker than OG Griffon

I made V's profile some time ago, there is a Render there o/

 

[Schnee_One]

Pure

Perfection

 

[Dark649]

Alright just checking. Made Urizen and V profiles, tell me what you think. I still need renders tho.

V can enhance his cane and hurt weak enemies.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Stat amp?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

And oh, Griffon uses natural lighting, some of his attacks are cloud to ground and...he scales to OG Griffon's lighting

 

[Dienomite22]

Also, watching the cutscene agai, it doesn't look like resurrection, since Nero didn't really died in this scene

I'm guessing they just retconned the event to Nero dying and being resurrected

 

[Dienomite22]

@Ogbunabali

Pre-Fruit Urizen durability should be something like "At least Small Country Level likely higher (Didn't take almost any damage from both Dante and Nero, Yamato's passively protecting Urizen makes it difficult to actually harm him)"

Urizen and V should have Enhanced Senses because V can sense demonic presences and Urizen being a full on demon should be able to as well.

Urizen should have Homing Attack with his time bubbles and fire balls.

 

[Ogbunabali]

snip

Added the Enhanced Senses and Homing Attack, but did Yamato passively protect him? I was under the impression that he was controlling it.

 

[Dienomite22]

@Ogbunabali

Nah remember when Urizen was about to kill Nero with a fireball and Dante shot at Urizen but the barrier protected him from the shots despite Urizen being focused on Nero?Urizen can control and recharge it to an extent but it still is passive.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Hmm didn't the bullets actually hit him tho?

 

[Twellas]

I'll try to see if i can somehow find out the magnitude of Urizen's earth-shaking feat guys

 

[Revan_Laha]

Alright just checking. Made Urizen and V profiles, tell me what you think. I still need renders tho.

Looks good

 

[Dienomite22]

Just rewatched it, it does forget what I said.But Pre-Fruit Urizen should have (Demonic) Plant manipulation and Urizen in general should have Air manipulation

 

[Ogbunabali]

Oh yeah he did have the shockwave, I forgot about that. What should that be classified as?