Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 8

[PrettyFearMachine]

@Ogbunabali

Pretty sure he needed prep time for that

 

[Ogbunabali]

I don't see why that would mean he shouldn't have it.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

That's not his own ability though, he needed other equipment for that, which he doesn't have by default.

 

[Ogbunabali]

What other equipment?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

With Temen-ni-Gru, it was the amulets & human blood.

 

[Ogbunabali]

The perfect amulet? That was created for awakening the sword Sparda like a failsafe. And what about Munuds and Argosax pretty sure he didn't need additional equipent for those.

 

[Dark649]

From being constantly molten by magma in second stage of his fight with Dante in DMC1. However, considering Mundus' stone shell and that magma is only 9-B, it probably shouldn't be there.

Agreed, he is durable enough to easily sustain that without regen.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I remember that he was being destroyed or vaporized or something like that.

 

[Dark649]

Vaporized not, Mundus is an red/orange demon that used a stone body as a shell, said shell was likely destroyed by Sparda, then he was able to reconstruct it over a very long time. It was later destroyed again by Dante, Mundus true form was then sealed away.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So Dante defeated Argosax in his Despair Embodied form, which didn't showed this level of regen

And Mundus regen should be "At least Low Mid", just like the others

I also agree that is a bit vague Dante having now Immortality on base, but it's possible, and Vergil might have it since he ate the Qliphoth Fruit

Anyway, I'll remove since we don't have enough proof

 

[Sparda_20000000]

I don't see why mundus's Regenerationn shouldn't be comparable to Abigail's

 

[Dark649]

Mundus took a lot of time to reform his shell, maybe he has the Regenerationn without it since Dante had to seal him in that state.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

When mundus's shell fell a part his actual body fell a part as well

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I remeber that the whole thing was destroyed (Mundus/the shell) and you fought him later with his body complete and destroy the shell then seal him.

That means he can regenerate his carcass pretty fast

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So guys, maybe we can apply the changes ?

DMCs profiles are completely outdated for almost a month since the revisions about High 6-A started a while ago, we need to update them

Minor things we can apply later

 

[Ogbunabali]

I completely agree.

 

[Dark649]

I can unlock Dante profile if asked.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I can make the changes, Dark o/

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Just asking but don't we need a CRT for this? Or it's made just in case we are going to add new abilities?

Also, we are pretty close to the 500 posts, somebody should make a new thread.

 

[Twellas]

Sooooo... what about the feats? Have they been calc'd?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Abigail's feat got evaluated

The Low 6-B feat from the novel is apparently wrong, so Mundus and people on his level scale to this

However, we have a 6-C feat for Vergil moving the Qliphoth, if he can do this by eating the fruit, then Mundus can also do, he also ate the same fruit in the past

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

>6-C God Tier DMC

And thus that's make DMC fells down to hill from Capcom strongest franchise lel

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Man, Mundus was 3-A and is going to be 7-A/6-C, talk about downgrade

Anyway, we still have Urizen Low 6-B feat

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Also, that's make Dante vs Bayonetta goes invalid now lmao.

Is the Low 6-B feat already rejected?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Well, we have two Low 6-B feats

One is from the novel but apparently it was rejected, but the other one is a statement from DMC5 about "shaking the foundations of the world", which is at least Low 6-B, this one is accepted

But only scales to Post Fruit Urizen, Post Sin Dante, Vergil and Post DT Nero

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Only them? Urizen being Low 6-B than Mundus or Argosax seems bit nosense tbh.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Well, this is after he ate the fruit, and Mundus also did this in the past

Could be possible that the fruit by itself gave him this level of power, but it is a fact that Urizen before eating that fruit already was far stronger than any other Demon King

However, we have Vergil being capable of moving the Qliphoth only after eating the fruit, it's a 6-C feat, this might scale to Mundus and the others, idk

 

[Ogbunabali]

The only connection we have is between Urizen and Mundus to scale from each other is eating the fruit.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Trish said that the fruit was more powerful than the tree, basically

So if you eat the fruit, you can control the Qliphoth, which is a 6-C feat

 

[Sparda_20000000]

What is wrong with the beastheads feat?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

You will find the discussion here

 

[BlackDarkness679]

The fight Dante had with Void Mundus really cant be quantified at all?There really arent any feats beyond tier 6 in the series anywhere that could be accepted?

 

[DarkGrath]

This discussion about the Beastheads feat is giving me a headache...

 

[DarkGrath]

And yes, while I don't know for sure how exactly, I'm sure there has to be some way to quantify the Void Mundus fight. I don't yet know how, but I'm almost certain it's over tier 6.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

When will the revision thread be ready dark?

 

[Dark649]

We are doing the revision right now, if there is something missing you can tell.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

I was talking about darkgarth's revision he is working on

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Btw, we should add the tabber w/ Devil Breakers for Nero's page.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I agree with Reb

 

[Skylietz]

Vergil's weakness is still the same since DMC 3: He has too much pride