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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 3

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Dante Demon Killah said:
If Sparda DT Dante is equal to his father, which makes sense, then we know that Sparda in his prime was only a bit stronger then Mundus
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Where is it stated that he was only a bit stronger than Mundus? Dante came without a scratch after fighting Mundus in Sparda DT form... But then when he was only using his own powers against heavily weakened and crumbling Mundus, Dante was loosing badly, not being able to even hurt him and heavily breathing.
 
Munuds and Sparda DT Dante were having a pretty close match when they fought. Sparda isn't that much stronger than Munuds.
 
Dante have regen to help against a scratch

Then why didn't kill Mundus, for example ? And we can see in the fight that Mundus was able to hurt Dante with his attacks. I honestly don't see Sparda being FAAAAAAR superior to Mundus

But if he is...it would explain some points here lol
 
Either this is recton or Dante didn't quiet use his father full power in DMC1. Going by DMC1 there isn't that of gap between Sparda and Mundus.
 
I believe Sparda didn't sealed ALL his powers in his Sword, but only a "good" portion of it

Which makes sense, because if he's really sealed almost everything, his fight with Argosax wasn't a fight, it was just a help in Sealing him, but again, this contradicts the story
 
Yeah, I think it's time to call him, this discussion about the God Tiers are kinda important to the verse

If i'm not mistaken, Argosax was stated to be the most evil Demon King ever
 
Guys... It's simple. Sparda simply trained in the Room of Spirit and Time after loosing majority of his powers and unlocked his Majin Form (Super Demon 2), just like Ichigo unlocked his Fullbring form from his badge, after facing off against Meruem ┬»\_(Òâä)_/┬»
 
Or Argosax being stronger than Mundus is just guessing work and we just assumed he's stronger than Mundus because Sparda couldn't beat him alone unlike Mundus. Argosax being a demon who ONCE ruled the Underworld mean that it's possible that at some point Mundus has overthrown him and took his place.

The fact that DMC2 is a shitty game with shitty plot and gameplay doesn't help sadly.
 
Thinking about this more I'm about to make things worse arkham and Sanctus might be comparable to Sid think about

All 3 we're borrowing power from characters more powerful then themselves but they couldn't really control because they rejected their humanity.

Sid is a more reliable source of information on Abigail then lady as he learned everything on how to get his powers he said Abigail once had the power to rival mundus not actually on par.

We know sparda was more powerful than mundus as he did beat him and when Dante used saparda's powers he beat him as well.
 
But there is a difference:

Basically, to use Sparda's full potential, you must have his Sword and Sparda's Blood

- Arkham had his Sword, but only it's dormant form, and didn't have Sparda's blood, the result ? Didn't have enough power to defeat two High 7-Cs. Arkham is weaker than Sanctus

- Sanctus had Sparda's Sword and had Nero on the Savior core, so basically, he had everything he needs to use Sparda's full potential, and the result was a High 6-A Savior

Sanctus against Nero had the Sparda Sword on his true form and nothing more, so he wasn't High 6-A and was defeated by Nero

Sanctus > Arkham, since he had the true form of Sparda Sword

And Nero > Sanctus > Arkham > DMC3 Dante/Vergil

That's why they have "Likely Higher" on their profiles, because even without all the requisites, having Sparda Sword might be an good upgrade, but we don't have proof that is enough to put them at High 6-A

Abigail's powers doesn't have this kind of requisites, so Sid could use muuuuuch more power from Abigail than Sanctus / Arkham did with Sparda powers
 
Also, are we sure Nero can cut through space just like Vergil did? I don't remember the former showing anything like that, so I'd like somebody to refresh my memories.
 
True, but Nero never did that to my knowledge. And pretty sure Vergil doesn't cut through space with literally any attack.
 
The one and only time i saw some sort of spatial manip was when Vergil joins Dante to fight Arkham and Yamato didn't bypass his dura, so no dura negation. Time for some downgrades.
 
Vergil did cut off one of Arkham's tentacles with a ranged slash when he entered the fight, so it likely does ignore durability, but with special attacks i.e. Judgement Cut, not with literally every attack.
 
Also, this would lead to the removal of Durability Negation from Nero's page.

BTW, reboot Dante has resistance to Spatial Manipulation for resisting Vergil's attacks with Yamato, which would bypass his regen if it wasn't for his resistance. Should OG Dante have a resistance to it for similar reasons as well?
 
If you can provide enough evidence then the resistance is ok, same with the spatial manip. Until then everyone loses their weak dura negation. So sad that DMC is such a fodder verse.
 
I mean, don't we always assume with games that your opponent uses all of their stuff against you during the fight?
 
Just JC. Dante should also have that, as he has the similar technique with it. Although, Nero is losing it.
 
I don't remember Dante having judgmental cut in DMC4, Dante's skills witg Yamato isn't anywhere close to Vergil.

And Yeah, Dante vs Nero is bad example.
 
IIRC Dante did cut the Hell Gate from afar. He also has a move called "Dimension Slash" which is similar to Judgement Cut.
 
It just, iirc Dante called his moves "Poor Imitation" of Vergil's skills with Yamato. Although he did Judgement Cut in the novels.
 
Sanctus did without any effort tho

But he already had some amps at that time, as far I remember, so maybe it's just an AP Advantage
 
Catching off guard doesn't make your Durability get a downgrade lol

This is Dragon Ball vibe when the character is with "Low Ki" in his body

Anyway, Nero being weakened is a good point
 
Maybe kii is a thing in DMC lol. You are comparing heavily suppressed Dante to Sanctus which is hard to judge because we don't know how much Dante was holding back

Are we saying Lady's bullets are high 7-C mow cuz she actually injured Dant?
 
Well, Chakra/Ki should be a thing in almost every verse going by it's definition lol

Hmm, I believe that a supressed Dante is High 7-C going by his fights with Nero and others, just like Sanctus, but I got your point tho, and it makes sense
 
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