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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Chronicplane said:
Think you should also be aware that regardless of how hard or how much your gonna disagree you ain't going to be able to change the way DB's interpretation of the fight and characters respective power levels, an just because there's a lead writer doesn't mean the verdict is decided from just one alone as they've said they have a group.

Just something I feel you should be made clear of when making your debunk or whatev, if it's to shed your light and understanding in the conversation to show others a possible different perspective for why you strongly disagree that's fine but if it's just you ******** on everyone's opinions and slamming everyone wrong then don't expect many people to jump on board with you or even worse hate.
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Ye I know, I'm actually working alongside some of the naruto and other star wars experts to write up this debunk, legit might post it as a video because theres a lot more wrong with this fight than previously though
 
Chronicplane said:
So Twilight was fed to Raven just for Raven to be fed to the Phoenix Force 💀
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Well... This makes Zatanna >= Scarlet Witch = characters heavily powered by Phoenix Force >> White Raven >> Alicorn Twilight heavily amped by multiple sources >= Tirek = Discord (possibly >= Twilight)

I totally mentioned someone.
 
Will respond to shadow in a few minutes but I gotta say this is a truly bizarre phenomenon, this forum is one of the only ones that majority thinks the outcome of the fight is correct. How odd.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Will respond to shadow in a few minutes but I gotta say this is a truly bizarre phenomenon, this forum is one of the only ones that majority thinks the outcome of the fight is correct. How odd.
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Alright explain cause some us including myself disagree
What's the reaction to it else where I know space battles agrees with it given they downplay star wars
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Will respond to shadow in a few minutes but I gotta say this is a truly bizarre phenomenon, this forum is one of the only ones that majority thinks the outcome of the fight is correct. How odd.
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Almost as if human beings are capable of forming there own opinions and are allowed there own logic without the expense of there freedom, how truly astonishing, I wish you luck with that mentality of ******** on everyone because your so hateful.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Man the episode was bad. Actually how does one argue the man who resisted being mind manip'd by The Force itself gets trapped in Infinite Tsukuyomi?
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Sir_Ovens said:
Man the episode was bad. Actually how does one argue the man who resisted being mind manip'd by The Force itself gets trapped in Infinite Tsukuyomi?
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No it wasn't.
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They already showed in it that the IT goes far beyond the standard mind hax a normal Genjutsu employs and that it's greater than what Vader has resisted before, also explaining how Vader's had past tendences into giving into them emotions, even if it's momentarily it'd mean everything against an opponent that's fast enough to keep up with you and has TSO's
 
Also since when did an episode get condemned for the research alone?, Guess Dio vs Alucard is the worst episode on DB because they got 1500x MFTL and City level Dio against building level Alucard yet it's still one of the most fun and engaging episodes for both Hellsing and JoJo fans that payed homage to both series.

EDIT: Like I love Alucard and would've preferred him killing Dio at the end(although I do love Dio a lot too) but idec it as amazing.
 
Tipper17 said:
Alright explain cause some us including myself disagree
What's the reaction to it else where I know space battles agrees with it given they downplay star wars
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From what I've seen around the communities

Spacebattles is Spacebattles

The VBW discord is vast majority in agreement that the outcome was wrong

DB wiki is mostly in agreement that it was wrong

The DB subreddit is neutral leaning on agreeing it was wrong, with a lot of people having issues with Vader's portrayal and the stuff they gave Obito

Comicvine is in the same boat as r/DB but leaning more towards agreeing it is wrong, and a lot of them are upset that Vader's force spirit form wasnt used when obito got Juubito
 
Sir_Ovens said:
Vader can mind manip entire planets and has fought people that use his level of mind manip against him.

The episode doesn't even address Vader'a precog, which would make Kamui useless considering Minato without it could accurately predict when Obito would come out of Kamui.
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Still doesn't translate to mental resistance, Aizen has displayed immense illusions but he hasn't shown mental resistance enough to stop even a genjutsu let alone an IT. An again your comparing a normal genjutsu to IT, not comparable. Other people have already explained it here that the IT is broken and quite literally simulates entire constellations and forces ones deepest desires into there psychies.

Vader had an advantage in having superior precognition, Obito's edges were more impactful overall. An not like Obito's extra sensory was bad either.
 
Chronicplane said:
Still doesn't translate to mental resistance, Aizen has displayed immense illusions but he hasn't shown mental resistance enough to stop even a genjutsu let alone an IT. An again your comparing a normal genjutsu to IT, not comparable. Other people have already explained it here that the IT is broken and quite literally simulates entire constellations and forces ones deepest desires into there psychies.

Vader had an advantage in having superior precognition, Obito's edges were more impactful overall. An not like Obito's extra sensory was bad either.
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IT literally will never land in the mu unless you give Obito prep
 
WeeklyBattles said:
From what I've seen around the communities

Spacebattles is Spacebattles

The VBW discord is vast majority in agreement that the outcome was wrong

DB wiki is mostly in agreement that it was wrong

The DB subreddit is neutral leaning on agreeing it was wrong, with a lot of people having issues with Vader's portrayal and the stuff they gave Obito

Comicvine is in the same boat as r/DB but leaning more towards agreeing it is wrong, and a lot of them are upset that Vader's force spirit form wasnt used when obito got Juubito
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People are either saying that the research could've been elaberated on better or further explained but didn't necessarily reject Obito winning or that it was wrong, even one of the G1 prediction researches of the blog in the official DB server had doubts.
 
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CBslayeR said:
everyone in the official DB and the reddit all disagree lol
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No they don't. Or are you rejecting the notion that this episode was close or how in the 2022 Blog Obito won and in the 2023 Blog Obito still received 7 votes(worth noting the blog even said there were far more unfamiliar with Naruto and there were debaters absent)
 
CBslayeR said:
damn bro i'm slightly disagreeing with one thing and you act like a ********, weird ass dude
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No I'm not, everyone's freaking out that Death Battle interpretated Obito would win in an extremely close fight that Vader could also win(they even said Vader could force crush GG). Like I said this amount of shit that's been happening just because a verdict that didn't go people's way is making this discussion shit and detracting from what was a genuinely amazing episode and I hate it.
 
RandomGuy2345 said:
I don't really care who won.

It honestly doesn't matter who won. There was going to be people malding about the outcome regardless lol.
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I get that, but MAAAAN this shit is AWFUL. I still don't think it's quite Hal vs Ben or Goku vs Superman levels of bad but it's enough to give them a run for there money that's for sure. It's these very reasons why I NEVER go back to revisit Goku vs Superman or Ben vs Hal for how crap the skirmish was
 
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