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Something something rety clocks
Something something bottomless gloves
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Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Something something bottomless gloves
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Bowser is gonna beat Eggman with those clocks in few months :^)
...Yeah, Im kinda feeling that.
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Low multi is fair aint it? tier 1 should be reserved for characters like simon in scope of power
Also there is a dude in discord which legit thinks all marvel and dc scale to tier 1, even those like spidey or batman, in base
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If we genuinely use consistency, punish inconsistency, use power intended in stories and use word of god, then even low multi might not be fair. Despite the fact that they do seem to have valid feats.
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Wouldn't the Time Stones, and Time Eater counter those?
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Kinda, but Im just expecting them to be stats equal & hax equal, then them deciding that Eggman runs out of power faster.
Tho thinking about it, didnt Forces have PR have endless power supply when it was connected to Death Egg Robot?
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Not lecturing you on anything, just giving you the connections Asura and Kratos have. And, still, banter can't carry a match all to well in my opinion, if they can't connect well in the first place. Even then, there's still plenty of banter potential between Asura and Kratos, since the fight is using modern Kratos. The former is more brash and loud when he comes to talking, the latter is now much more calm compared to his youth.
Fortunately KratoSura isn't one of those overhyped old generation matches. It still holds up phenomenally today.
And again, it still holds up. People still talk about the game today, thanks to it being available to purchase via backwards compatibility. I don't see how this is a point against it.
We have had entertaining fights that involve fighters that mainly fight with their fists or up close. Might Guy vs All Might for one, Hulk vs Broly for another.
I'm simply one who understands the complaints about taking lore over shown feats, because in all honesty it is a real problem that should be taken notice of.
Yes but they don't have to have trouble with the mundane, do they? It isn't even about destroying universes constantly over and over, Asura's Wrath was able to make stellar scenes with 2012 technology on a PS3 and Xbox 360 before it went cosmic. Scenes that have impact with its destruction. And it's one of its highlights.
Again, I simply understand the complaints given by people. Because in the end, it gets absurd at vertain points.
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Most authors downplay their characters or outright say dont care of consistency
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Yes.
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I have a lot of canonical Pokemon anatomy to present in that case.
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Tho since we are on BowserEggman phase now, I guess Ill semi rant about something, and sure, its because Eggman has been buffed really hard lately but uhh
Eggman's army is just better than Bowser's army.
Since they allow everything that means Metal gets Metal Overlord and thats just ggs. No one else in Bowser's army specifically matches that. Hell, since theres way too much stuff to think about here I might have missed it, but does Bowser's army even resist time stops? No funny "haha Boos slip into another dimension" shit here. Counting vehicles n stuff Eggman literally has laser that destroys multiple stars that Bowser's army doesnt even know about. Practically thats so done.
In theory Kamek, King Boo & Jr have more weird hax, but since Metal can copy supernatural powers, it seems to be possible he can copy those as well. And PR means Eggman's army can create hundreds of Metals no sweat. They can create hundreds of Shadows too so a lot of time stops too.
Historically Bowser's army being smarter was fair, Eggman didnt really have commanders who thought and Metal sort of was ballistic missile most of the time, Heroes was one time thing for a while. Sage completely uno-reverses this. Bowser's army doesnt really have any real genius tacticians. Sage could even warn before hand that Bowser's army has dangerous hax, so he could prepare faster than usual.
Loyalty is the one thing they have. Goombas would probably fight to the last breath while some Egg Pawns might get scared when near defeat. If only this would matter here but ehh.
Metal Virus works on half of army too, notably Jr & Kamek. King Boo might resist it since he is a ghost.
Maybe Im neglecting sth from Bowser's side, but practically Eggman's army is better in key areas.
Eggman's army is just better than Bowser's army.
Since they allow everything that means Metal gets Metal Overlord and thats just ggs. No one else in Bowser's army specifically matches that. Hell, since theres way too much stuff to think about here I might have missed it, but does Bowser's army even resist time stops? No funny "haha Boos slip into another dimension" shit here. Counting vehicles n stuff Eggman literally has laser that destroys multiple stars that Bowser's army doesnt even know about. Practically thats so done.
In theory Kamek, King Boo & Jr have more weird hax, but since Metal can copy supernatural powers, it seems to be possible he can copy those as well. And PR means Eggman's army can create hundreds of Metals no sweat. They can create hundreds of Shadows too so a lot of time stops too.
Historically Bowser's army being smarter was fair, Eggman didnt really have commanders who thought and Metal sort of was ballistic missile most of the time, Heroes was one time thing for a while. Sage completely uno-reverses this. Bowser's army doesnt really have any real genius tacticians. Sage could even warn before hand that Bowser's army has dangerous hax, so he could prepare faster than usual.
Loyalty is the one thing they have. Goombas would probably fight to the last breath while some Egg Pawns might get scared when near defeat. If only this would matter here but ehh.
Metal Virus works on half of army too, notably Jr & Kamek. King Boo might resist it since he is a ghost.
Maybe Im neglecting sth from Bowser's side, but practically Eggman's army is better in key areas.
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Can't wait for a repeat of Wiley vs Eggman
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I dont need to hear them im well aware of both
Its more interesting to have Dante fool around till he gets serious, while Kratos take it serious till is a moment he unleashes himself eventually, over Kratos being reminded Asura is like his younger self from before
Only casuals which for the most part was due to asura being an anime god of war
Only times i seen it talked are just Matt foing over what happened with the game back then for capcom and a channel who reacts to death battle top recently playing it, other then that not much besides vs community
Both were up close punching or h2h fighters, Kratos has weapons, Asura not, Dante can fight in both and shown it
You cant do both without affecting the overall narrative or we gonna believe guns or fall damage disproves characters that have clear feats above that just cuz its threatening them?...plus even gow devs went over how gameplay isnt reflecting kratos power which should be obvious, you want have playing something a challenge too, not the character one shotting everything just to appeal on the visuals or lore
A game which as they put it, was a cinematic anime game, with gameplay being QTE or mashing overall, visually speaking without taking vs debating and guessing a level, it would be planet busting from them, higher levels comes from guides or calcs with something in mind when doing measurements
For all that spectacle it didnt sell well for capcom to do a sequel or put asura into anything outside his game, besides just one costume for Street Fighter 5 and thats about it
Its absurd when tiktok or youtubers use fancy words and irl religion stuff to argue huge levels not true
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Metal Overlord is weaker than base Modern Metal and Sage
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Yeah, but MODERN Metal Overlord is where its at :^)Metal Overlord is weaker than base Modern Metal and Sage
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Master Overlord lost to base characters, too. Lol. Super Neo is where it's at.
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I said Metal Overlord, not Master Overlord :^)
I guess Super Neo might make it to animation instead? Its a possibility.
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Then say that right off the bat
Must be a preference then. With how story focused latest Death Battles have been, I find the latter of the two more compelling. Especially since both home series are very story heavy. (Asura's Wrath should have been an anime, it would have boomed more in popularity
)should that not reinforce the connections even more? And what's so bad about casuals liking it, it just shows they have good taste.
In recent years people like ImDontai and MoistCritical have played through the entire game (2023 and 2022 respectively), and to rep a lesser known cool channel, Bumbles McFumbles made an entire video on it as well just a couple of weeks ago (they're funny).
Also is Matt the dude from that "What Happened" series?
Kratos main weapons are close up, which Asura can fight against with his fists, and the ranged weapons can be fought with his blasts. It doesn't have to be all too complicated.
Or, you know, they don't have to be one shot? They can still have these mighty or close fights with impressive feats. And you can definitely do both and have it not affect the narrative.
yes, cinematic anime game, where these feats happen in cutscenes. You can have cutscenes to show this stuff, it's that simple.
And I'm just going to say it, the beat em up and on rail shooting sections were still fun as hell, love the gameplay.
This is just going over the success of the game now. Yeah, it's a shame that it didn't get any follow up content (but it did get a manga so that was neat). Oh how I wish to see how Papa Asura took down that meteor falling down onto the city.
Well yeah, that's tiktok and YouTube shorts scaling, a bit dumb to pay those any mind at all in the first place.
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Yes you can lol Bayonetta literally disproves this hell sonic and many others as well has shown you can stick to the narrative while also showing how strong the characters are
Ya don't need to blow up shit 24/7 to be sold as a cosmic heavyweight but you need to show something on the lines of cosmic fuckery to show you can **** with others with comparable feats
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go and watch it, or buy it if you have the money and are interested. Its quite spectacular.
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It sounds similar to the time that Nintendo, back in the 90's, bought the rights to a live action Mario porno movie just to keep it locked up forever.
The funny thing is that there does exist clips of the movie out there on the internet, but nothing NSFW of course and it's considered lost media at this point in time.
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Nah. Shadow Gens is too recent for them to change their research (Bowser vs Eggman already outdated confirmed????)
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Probably want to see how it goes down in the game before fully clowning on himMetal Overlord is weaker than base Modern Metal and Sage
When the game comes out anyways
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Unless Doom Powers are Super Shadow tier, I doubt the full game will change much.
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Super Neo literally got one-shot by Base Shadow.
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He also stomped both Knuckles and Sonic so that was just hax, okay?
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Hax fr
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Maybe, but it still visibly hurt him since his eyes started spazzing out like they do when he takes damage.
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Why not both
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I mean Shadow's using the same type of power in order to hurt Super Neo in the first place, so I don't think that Neo getting hurt by Chaos energy is as bad as it sounds.
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That still means Shadow just randomly can bypass an infinite power amp with his Chaos Attacks which was never implied before. Even without Invulnerability the characters who have shown bypassing it are still the same level physically as the Super Form Characters like the Titans.
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I agree that it's pretty horse shit that Shadow can just do that now when he's never been able to do something like that in the past. But that's just what happens when you write yourself into a corner and you need a good justification to explain how the good guys beat the bad guy despite the latter being utterly busted
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I mean, that's literally what he did, so we just have to accept it. It's just bad writing in the end.
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I agree, I'm just expressing my thoughts on what he did. Though in hindsight: why didn't they just have Shadow go Super Shadow using the Master Emerald as a justification? It'd have probably be less egregious if Shadow fought Neo in his own Super form as opposed to randomly nullifying it with Chaos Spear.
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Could've had a super form fight but nope rather some boring way to handle it
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