Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[SamanPatou]

Any thoughts. Also look what is transparent behind Akuma.

I don't know why Iori is there when Rugal and Mr. Karate were Akuma's counterparts within the SNK vs Capcom series, but all three are better match ups than Garou and Raoh.

It can also be argued that Ogre is a better opponent for Akuma because of their rivalry in SFxT.

Yujiro is a good opponent and I feel like he will be Akuma's opponent in the actual episode.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Ogre has Necalli, Seth or Kotal Kahn iirc, sf x t model even looked like seth a little

 

[SamanPatou]

Seth doesn't have any reason to be there, at least the other two have Aztech inspirations.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I know, yet its still another match up thrown around like the other two for him by peeps apparently

 

[Joycap]

Copen would actually be quite at home in a fight against a Sin and Punishment character. What are Isa's powers and abilities and such? Since another character from her game seems really strong.

As for GV; Miriam, Cole and K' seem to have stronger connections (Hell, Cole would be the perfect fight for GV if it wasn't for Cole vs Alex being a thing).

The main hook as far as power sets would be a sort of 'second life' or statistical super form (Anthem vs the fused Isa/Kachi form whose name has escaped me atvm). Isa also has natural levitation, midrange Melee combat, charge shots and some other stuff probably a bit too herculean to itemise simply because I'm reading off Saki's page (Isa Jo doesn't have a VS page for some daft reason).

On that note, I kind of want to want to put forward the idea that AZG verse might be planetary through scaling to Nova, but replaying the game(s) is something I don't have time for, so that's going to end up on the backburner lol.

And that's werehog only I suppose?

Morag vs Winter Schnee is better tbh. Feels way more thematic.

Winter certainly wouldn't be missing from a list of honerable mentions when it comes to opponents for Morag, It's just that I think we have a smidgen more data on Satsuki, and a part of me wants another KLK rep to step forward because I don't like how Shadow vs Ryuko came out.

I certainly wouldn't lose sleep if it went the other way, though.

No offense, but the matchup of Yoseph vs Rose wants to make me throw up blood.

I am intrigued to hear why lol

 

[Jasonsith]

I still feel like the connections are relatively weak.

I may sound like a broken record, but i do still think Toyotomi Hideyoshi from Sengoku Basara would a more fitting opponent for Raoh.

Two very tall warlords, who have similar mindset about strength be everything that matter in life and want to conquer and bring order to their worlds with the purpose of ending their respective dark age (the Post Nuclear Apocalypse for Raoh, and the Sengoku Period for Toyotomi) so to bring a new golden age.

Also they have a thing about punching the sky/heaven, and the character of Toyotomi does take inspiration from Raoh.

Oh Hideyoshi Toyotomi did punch a sea. Fitting for Raoh who punched a sky.

Speaking of Toffee why is he 5-B exactly? The profile says he “should” scale to Planet busters but why would he? He has next to no feats of power as his regular form, and always came off as more of an intelligent manipulative villain than a really strong one.

He is at least 5-B for scaling to one Star's attack which is stated to be planet busting.

 

[Oleggator]

He is at least 5-B for scaling to one of Star's weapon which is stayed to be planet busting.

And which weapon it is exactly? Because profile don't seem to be exactly saying something about it.

 

[The_Smashor]

On that note, I kind of want to want to put forward the idea that AZG verse might be planetary through scaling to Nova, but replaying the game(s) is something I don't have time for, so that's going to end up on the backburner lol.

If Nova had anything planetary, we'd have found it by now. Inti has a bad habit of saying jack all about Nova's abilities.

 

[Cropfist]

I really don't understand why Raoh would be such perfect opponent for Akuma.

The only connections they have its that they killed their brothers and that they want power, and that's it.

Those would actually be the same connections as vs Darkseid.

 

[The_Smashor]

I really don't understand why Raoh would be such perfect opponent for Akuma.

The only connections they have its that they killed their brothers and that they want power, and that's it.

They're also some of the strongest martial artists in their verse, and use the "Evil" version of their art.

 

[Thestrikingzebra]

Winter certainly wouldn't be missing from a list of honerable mentions when it comes to opponents for Morag, It's just that I think we have a smidgen more data on Satsuki, and a part of me wants another KLK rep to step forward because I don't like how Shadow vs Ryuko came out.

I certainly wouldn't lose sleep if it went the other way, though.

You have my respect friend. What are the connections between Morag and Satsuki? Not super familiar with Kill la Kill tbh

 

[Joycap]

You have my respect friend. What are the connections between Morag and Satsuki? Not super familiar with Kill la Kill tbh

The primary hook would be the political ramifications of their respective states (in this case, Mor Ardain vs Honnōji Academy (and it's corresponding island)). Their access to their power (in these cases, Brighid and Junketsu) is also a corollary to said positions, Morag being Mor Ardain's 'Special Inquisitor' trusted with the jewel of the empire (direct quote), and Satsuki being one of REVOC's supposed servants with family ties to the life fibres (and by extension Junketsu) up until she backstabs Ragyo in Episode 17/18 (can't quite recall which).

 

[CinnabarManx421]

He is at least 5-B for scaling to one Star's attack which is stated to be planet busting.

Well the profile doesn’t say that, it just says he “should” scale above planet busters for no reason.
Also it should be noted that all of Star’s spells have very different effects and applications, and Star didn’t use this specific spell on Toffee so I doubt it would make him 5-B. Star isn’t straight up Low 7-C on the profile because her Whispering Spell is, it’s only for the specific spell.

 

[Oleggator]

He is at least 5-B for scaling to one Star's attack which is stated to be planet busting.

Ok now I see but:
1. Star Iirc didn't used that spell on toffee.
2. I'm pretty doubtful at it because in same sentence where it's stated to be planet buster it stated to be as attractor for cats so I guess it varies cause who's gonna use death star on such non combat way (with exception of doofenshmirtz)?

 

[NotoriouSoda]

I don't know why Iori is there when Rugal and Mr. Karate were Akuma's counterparts within the SNK vs Capcom series, but all three are better match ups than Garou and Raoh.

It can also be argued that Ogre is a better opponent for Akuma because of their rivalry in SFxT.

Yujiro is a good opponent and I feel like he will be Akuma's opponent in the actual episode.

Does Hayato not exist?

Like its Yujiro perfect opponent.

 

[Epiccheev]

How popular is hayato?
Afaik, most of his popularity comes from being the perfect opponent for Yujiro.

 

[Oleggator]

Ok now I see but:
1. Star Iirc didn't used that spell on toffee.
2. I'm pretty doubtful at it because in same sentence where it's stated to be planet buster it stated to be as attractor for cats so I guess it varies cause who's gonna use death star on such non combat way (with exception of doofenshmirtz)?

Basically here's first fight scene where toffee got hurt even from non 5-B spell:

And second time where he was in same base form as in season 1 but just with his finger back:

And that's basically all interactions of Star with Toffee physically.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

How popular is hayato?
Afaik, most of his popularity comes from being the perfect opponent for Yujiro.

Nah kenichi history's strongest disciple is a series that a lot of people grew up with lol.

But its also not the fact that its only the perfect match for Yujiro. Its also due to how similar they are and still differ from each other that its like the character were always meant to fight each other

 

[Stefano4444]

They're also some of the strongest martial artists in their verse, and use the "Evil" version of their art.

Pretty sure Raoh's Hokuto Shinken has no techniques which names that use the word evil.

 

[SamanPatou]

Does Hayato not exist?

Like its Yujiro perfect opponent.

This is actually true, but I doubt DB will do it.

 

[Epiccheev]

Yujiro prob wins after the Ap upgrade, but comparing their skill levels is going to be a PAIN

 

[Loh67867]

Pretty sure Raoh's Hokuto Shinken has no techniques which names that use the word evil.

I think he got Raoh mixed up with Kaioh lol

 

[Loh67867]

I don't know why Iori is there when Rugal and Mr. Karate were Akuma's counterparts within the SNK vs Capcom series

Rugal has Bison tho

 

[NotoriouSoda]

This is actually true, but I doubt DB will do it.

I'll convince them to do it watch lol

Yujiro prob wins after the Ap upgrade, but comparing their skill levels is going to be a PAIN

I mean if you want to you could argue that both are City level, but skill is definitely a toss up as both massively upscale from there verse

 

[SamanPatou]

Rugal has Bison tho

Uh, that's also a cool match up.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Guys... the author of Berserk died.

My condolences. I could never get into Berserk (not a big fan of those types of stories), but I know it meant a lot for so many people. May he rest in peace.

 

[Stefano4444]

Osmosis Jones VS U-1146 (Osmosis Jones VS Cells at Work!)
OST: Out for White Blood

 

[CBslayeR]

YES

 

[The_Smashor]

Pretty sure Raoh's Hokuto Shinken has no techniques which names that use the word evil.

Perhaps, but Raoh does use Hard Style, as opposed to Toki's more gentle Soft Style the specializes in healing.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Oleggator]

that's actually not bad thumbnail. Looks probably the other thing I want to argue is that Midorya and Gon in that pics wouldn't exactly merge. Something tells me, because Midorya looks more flat on that pic than Gon but overall pretty good for thumbnail.

 

[Jasonsith]

that's actually not bad thumbnail. Looks probably the other thing I want to argue is that Midorya and Gon in that pics wouldn't exactly merge. Something tells me, because Midorya looks more flat on that pic than Gon but overall pretty good for thumbnail.

This good.

And crush any obstacles for Killua from fighting Black Star as Akame would be too much for Killua.
By the time Akame vs Killua was a DBX the crew did not know Akame was multi-continent by defeating Esdeath.

Basically here's first fight scene where toffee got hurt even from non 5-B spell:

And second time where he was in same base form as in season 1 but just with his finger back:

And that's basically all interactions of Star with Toffee physically.

Then it is assuming Star is planet or universal only with specific spells and nothing else.

But we know what Death Battle buys: If she can perform a spell which is planet busting, she is planet level. If she can perform a spell which is universe busting, she is universe level.

Remember back when Esdeath is multi-continent level with Ice Storm: Commander-in-chief.

More importantly, as this may greater affect the verdict: any clips for the shrinking process of the universe itself in the Omnitraxus Prime feat?
Also, any MFTL+ speed? Like how long does Omnitraxus Prime shoot a spell to hit how far an object to make the universe shrink? Any other feats? Star Butterfly herself is lightning dodging and in some cases light dodging (under calculation and evaluation) she can somehow scale above Marco who hit Hekapoo who "can run across the circumference of a planet in approximately 4 seconds" (needs a clip).

 

[Tipper17]

And crush any obstacles for Killua from fighting Black Star as Akame would be too much for Killua.

No it doesn't
Don't turn your Hope into a Cope

 

[Livinmeme]

This good.

And crush any obstacles for Killua from fighting Black Star as Akame would be too much for Killua.
By the time Akame vs Killua was a DBX the crew did not know Akame was multi-continent by defeating Esdeath.


Then it is assuming Star is planet or universal only with specific spells and nothing else.

But we know what Death Battle buys: If she can perform a spell which is planet busting, she is planet level. If she can perform a spell which is universe busting, she is universe level.

Remember back when Esdeath is multi-continent level with Ice Storm: Commander-in-chief.

More importantly, as this may greater affect the verdict: any clips for the shrinking process of the universe itself in the Omnitraxus Prime feat?
Also, any MFTL+ speed? Like how long does Omnitraxus Prime shoot a spell to hit how far an object to make the universe shrink? Any other feats? Star Butterfly herself is lightning dodging and in some cases light dodging (under calculation and evaluation) she can somehow scale above Marco who hit Hekapoo who "can run across the circumference of a planet in approximately 4 seconds" (needs a clip).

no it shouldnt esdeath can be scalled to physical star no because is magic

 

[CBslayeR]

I'm really scared to see death battle do a HxH matchup because I don't think they'd understand Nen properties very well

 

[Livinmeme]

I'm really scared to see death battle do a HxH matchup because I don't think they'd understand Nen properties very well

they didnt take the funny soul crush so i doubt they would take the nen crush so... gon dies unless HXH gets big upgrades in the next arcs who is never

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Osmosis Jones VS U-1146 (Osmosis Jones VS Cells at Work!)
OST: Out for White Blood

That... works surprisingly well, actually.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Satsuki is her best one and always will

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

But with the stats DB gave her she beats Satsuki and that's cringe