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You didn't actualy read any of the links I posted huh? Plus you said manga SSB did not have an aura, yet you got proved wrong, plus I am 80% sure there are times in the movie Goku fights without an aura
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Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)
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Honestly, I don’t see how many people think Z is better than super. Not sure if that’s an unpopular opinion
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Z is infinitely better lol
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The virgin DBS vs The virgin DBZ vs The Chad Dragon Ball
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Yes I did, and the scans literally show Goku using his pseudo-kaioken thing from the ToP. If you literally go back and check the initial appearance of Perfected SSJ Blue for both Goku and Vegeta, it literally states and shows that the aura is retracted into the body, making it so the form has no visible aura, unless the user is using either the pseudo-kaioken state, or the evolution state.
The Broly movie meanwhile portrays the basic SSJ Blue state as having an aura, meaning while the aesthetic resembles the manga (which it does loosely, what with the crackling crystal things of the manga's aura being absent), it is likely not the same.
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To be honest you're not wrong, but tbf, part of the reason we feel that way may be due to nostalgia. If dbz came out today, people would probably mock it for being a big departure from the OG series.
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Yeah no, interviews says otherwise and most of these and fan opinions shit, where was it stated evolution and such were considered to not exist?
Anime takes precedence over manga and thats a fact by this point
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Also toyotaro taking his spot to do the manga, while the anime still has to do from toriyama these things already shows, the manga has more freedom to do its thing, compared to the anime
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Those posts above don't even make sense, the pics I posted compared each SSB to the manga with perfect matchups, yet you derrail about how perfected SSB doesn't have an aura, even though that isn't what is actualy being argued, what's being argued is that the movie follows more the manga
The second one mentions "interviews" yet posts none, and claims the pic is "fan shit" (as if he isn't doing the exact same) yet everything there is from actual interviews
But you can wait for July 2019 for your "canon" anime to return and adapt the arcs from Toryama and Toyotaro
The second one mentions "interviews" yet posts none, and claims the pic is "fan shit" (as if he isn't doing the exact same) yet everything there is from actual interviews
But you can wait for July 2019 for your "canon" anime to return and adapt the arcs from Toryama and Toyotaro
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If you think you and your big ass ego with fan shit is proof you couldnt have made a bigger hole for yourself
The fact you dont even know of those interviews shows how bs is your so called "proof"
Also claiming that the manga continues and anime doesnt isnt supporting your argument either
Anime is taking priority over the manga, the end
The fact you dont even know of those interviews shows how bs is your so called "proof"
Also claiming that the manga continues and anime doesnt isnt supporting your argument either
Anime is taking priority over the manga, the end
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Wait I meant GT not Z I mistyped there
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Keep it for yourself your delusions of "manga is prime canon hurr durr"
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News | Official Website for 2018 Dragon Ball Film Reveals Key Staff, Visual, Release Date, & Akira Toriyama Comment
The official website for the upcoming December 2018 theatrical Dragon Ball film has revealed a release date, key staff, new visual, and a new comment from original author Akira Toriyama
www.kanzenshuu.com
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Also please, if the anime is to ever continue I sincerely don't want to see the Moro arc again. But if it does I want it to stay as far away from Toyotaro's version as possible and do things that he didn't do
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Going to thrown insults because you have no counter arguments huh? You keep claiming shit is "fan made" yet that's literally just your empty word, at least I provided evidence for my claims unlike you. Also yes, the anime being over while the manga isn't and keeps getting new arcs and furthers the plot, that definitvely sounds like the one with least priority
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Oh for pete's sake did you forget about the Zamasu arc? I know the manga depiction was a bore c'mon. I would link some manga screenshots, but I don't know how to do so on the phone, so just look at these links
Chapter 24 details how Perfected Blue literally has no aura, with an aura only appearing if the user is screwing up the transformation.
Chapter 27 emphasizes this point again, showing Vegeta following the same steps in containing his aura.
Chapter 39 shows Goku's use of a pseudo-kaioken, which is the form he occasionally takes in later parts of the manga for more power. Note how it cannot be used for more than a few moments, and note how its aura is far more jagged than the broly movie.
Chapter 40 shows the aura of Evolved Blue, which is the most similar of the manga auras to the Broly movie, (outside the incomplete state which is never used again due to being weaker and more draining than perfected), but makes no sense, as Goku never learned the form in the manga.
Here's some wiki links, if the point isn't coming across.
dragonball.fandom.com
dragonball.fandom.com
Chapter 24 details how Perfected Blue literally has no aura, with an aura only appearing if the user is screwing up the transformation.
Chapter 27 emphasizes this point again, showing Vegeta following the same steps in containing his aura.
Chapter 39 shows Goku's use of a pseudo-kaioken, which is the form he occasionally takes in later parts of the manga for more power. Note how it cannot be used for more than a few moments, and note how its aura is far more jagged than the broly movie.
Chapter 40 shows the aura of Evolved Blue, which is the most similar of the manga auras to the Broly movie, (outside the incomplete state which is never used again due to being weaker and more draining than perfected), but makes no sense, as Goku never learned the form in the manga.
Here's some wiki links, if the point isn't coming across.
Perfected Super Saiyan Blue
Perfected Super Saiyan Blue (超スーパーサイヤ人じんブルーの完成, Sūpā Saiya-jin Burū no Kansei, "Super Saiyan Blue Perfected"),[1] simply called SSGSS in its debut,[2] is the completed Super Saiyan Blue form. This state only exists in the Dragon Ball Super manga. It is noted to be a higher transformation than...
dragonball.fandom.com
Super Saiyan Blue
Super Saiyan Blue (超スーパーサイヤ人じんブルー, Sūpā Saiya-jin Burū), also known as Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (超スーパーサイヤ人じんゴッド超スーパーサイヤ人じん, Sūpā Saiya-jin Goddo Sūpā Saiya-jin), is a divine transformation and a transcended version of the Super Saiyan God form. By undertaking godly ki training with a deity...
dragonball.fandom.com
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On a sidenote, I actually forgot this was the death battle thread for a bit. All this Dragon Ball talk has been dominating the last few pages.
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Yeah, I'm gonna believe the person who isn't calling the other guy an idiot.
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Both the manga and anime are equally canon until states someone states otherwise. Trying to debate something which only Toriyama can decide only results in headcanon. Regardless, it dosen't change the fact that the anime is by far the more promoted form of media, and that's honestly more important than circular debates on canon.
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This is becoming quite the mess isn't it.
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I have no idea what's your point, yes the manga has perfected SSB, however you making a big wall of explanation is completely irrelevant, my pictures clearly showed moments in the movie they used manga SSB, unless you are trying to argue it would only follow the manga is they always were in perfected SSB during the entire movieOh for pete's sake did you forget about the Zamasu arc? I know the manga depiction was a bore c'mon. I would link some manga screenshots, but I don't know how to do so on the phone, so just look at these links
Chapter 24 details how Perfected Blue literally has no aura, with an aura only appearing if the user is screwing up the transformation.
Chapter 27 emphasizes this point again, showing Vegeta following the same steps in containing his aura.
Chapter 39 shows Goku's use of a pseudo-kaioken, which is the form he occasionally takes in later parts of the manga for more power. Note how it cannot be used for more than a few moments, and note how its aura is far more jagged than the broly movie.
Chapter 40 shows the aura of Evolved Blue, which is the most similar of the manga auras to the Broly movie, (outside the incomplete state which is never used again due to being weaker and more draining than perfected), but makes no sense, as Goku never learned the form in the manga.
Here's some wiki links, if the point isn't coming across.
Perfected Super Saiyan Blue
Perfected Super Saiyan Blue (超スーパーサイヤ人じんブルーの完成, Sūpā Saiya-jin Burū no Kansei, "Super Saiyan Blue Perfected"),[1] simply called SSGSS in its debut,[2] is the completed Super Saiyan Blue form. This state only exists in the Dragon Ball Super manga. It is noted to be a higher transformation than...
Super Saiyan Blue
Super Saiyan Blue (超スーパーサイヤ人じんブルー, Sūpā Saiya-jin Burū), also known as Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (超スーパーサイヤ人じんゴッド超スーパーサイヤ人じん, Sūpā Saiya-jin Goddo Sūpā Saiya-jin), is a divine transformation and a transcended version of the Super Saiyan God form. By undertaking godly ki training with a deity...
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I don't think I ever argued otherwise
However it's the most promoted media because Toei makes most side material, this has always been the case, even back with the original anime
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... could you actually read my comments, because this is less a two way stream of thought, and more me going round in a non musical example of da capo al fine. Honestly beginning to remind me of the time I tried to explain why SSJ God isn't faster than SSJ Blue. Well pointless endavours are annoying so I guess I'll leave this conversation on a inconclusive end. This was fun.
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First of all i didnt insult you, saying you have a big ego, as you came in acting all gangster to slap the "proof", which has fan opinion in it mostly, is literally what happens here
And also i can right now go look for 2 pics and shut your whole argument down with those alone
Also bias on your side with your comments on manga continuing and anime being cancelled doesnt make your side look as anything other then a triggered fan
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All I see is wall of texts about how perfected SSB works, which was not my point, but fine by me, I am getting tired by this conversation
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Surely there's a Dragon Ball discussion thread this can be taken to.
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@Hunterzillas oh there is, it's just nothing noteworthy really happens with DB these days till a new manga chapter comes out or Heroes related content is released
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You are the one saying your fan opinion as truth my man
Do it
You are the one who ends your points with the anime being the main canon, and that's a fact, while I agree both are their own canons
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I am not replying anymore, sorry for derrailing
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Ah, well the reason I was explaining how Perfected Blue works is to show you that, even if the auras resemble the the manga in the Broly movie, it does not mean that the manga portrayal is the one portrayed in the movie, it's left rather open to interpretation, albeit one that I believe aligns more with the anime. I thought this was rather clear but oh well. Ciao.
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This is true. To be honest I actually thought this was the dragon ball thread till a reply or two ago. Would be nice to see more love for the whole foot dive seen last episode.
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I also said both are canon, yet i dont delusionase as you with manga being more canon or the winner with the "manga still goes on, anime not, so yeah"
Im basing it on words said for both how they are going with toriyama, not from my opinion, unlike you fan made conglomeration image
Im basing it on words said for both how they are going with toriyama, not from my opinion, unlike you fan made conglomeration image
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Oh, that alone might make this my favorite 2D episode. I'm a sucker for some Foot Dive.
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I honestly replayed that scene too many times. The voice actors also really elevated this fight personally (the new Luthor voice was a good improvement over the last one) I might also be convinced to have this as my favourite 2d episode, but there's some good contenders out there.
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Meant GT not Z, sorry
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I am pretty sure there's a part in the movie where they fight without the auras, isn't there? Well I disagree with you but that's fine
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The dialogue from both sides was tremendous. It was so satisfying to finally see this fight happen, and I'm so glad it happened for this season instead of in one of the earlier ones. The better research and budget helped to bring it to life.
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I was wrong, i actually have 3 pics to use actually to do this and its right in ( here )
It says Toei gotta follow Toriyama draft and they dont have the power to change from him, requests yes, but no changes
So the idea that Toei does what they want is wrong, meanwhile Toyotaro can add his own ideas compared to Toei, who cant change stuff and even departs from toriyama stuff
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