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But it is also not alluded to that the range that gas can travel with the TI is lower than that of Goku other than in mastery in battle and in knowledge of Ki signatures.That doesn't contradict what I said.
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But it is also not alluded to that the range that gas can travel with the TI is lower than that of Goku other than in mastery in battle and in knowledge of Ki signatures.That doesn't contradict what I said.
No? Why would it? Gas didn't follow Goku for their first teleport jump; Goku teleported Gas there.Bro if the range was in question then gas wouldn't be able to follow goku in first place meaning that he was relying on goku's ki here without goku's help he has no way to I.t to cereal
At what point was it stated that Goku's sensory ability to sense ki signatures is superior to Gas's?The statement seems to imply to me that higher mastery grants more sensory range for the IT technique to lock onto.
Yes but after that he was literally following goku with his I.t he wouldn't be able to do that if his teleportation was inferiorNo? Why would it? Gas didn't follow Goku for their first teleport jump; Goku teleported Gas there.
Would the distance between Namek and Earth be somehow useful to the calculation?
Goku would say that if that was what he meant. Your explanation does not line up with Goku's words in that page I linked.
Was it stated that Gas could not return to the planet where Goku forcibly teleported him to the cereal planet?No? Why would it? Gas didn't follow Goku for their first teleport jump; Goku teleported Gas there.
Because Goku is attributing their being here, to the mastery of IT. However, this can’t refer to range because obviously gas can follow him. IT is sensing somebody, and teleporting to them. If teleporting to them isn’t what goku is talking about, then sensing somebody is.At what point was it stated that Goku's sensory ability to sense ki signatures is superior to Gas's?
Yes, but that is because Goku knows more ki signatures throughout the universe than Gas and that is what I alluded to but it is different from the fact that Goku can sense the ki of people further away than Goku. Gas did not know Jaco or Monaka, which is why he could not return to those distant planets, unlike Goku.Because Goku is attributing their being here, to the mastery of IT. However, this can’t refer to range because obviously gas can follow him. IT is sensing somebody, and teleporting to them. If teleporting to them isn’t what goku is talking about, then sensing somebody is.
Is the distance between yadrat and earth a galactic one?Do you guys not realize Gas only needs to be superior to VEGETA to teleport from Yardrat to Earth? Goku's line is meaningless for this comparison as Gas is a much more skilled user of IT than Vegeta
fr, vegeta can't even use it anymore lmfao, and gas was zipping all over the place.Do you guys not realize Gas only needs to be superior to VEGETA to teleport from Yardrat to Earth? Goku's line is meaningless for this comparison as Gas is a much more skilled user of IT than Vegeta
It was stated by vegeta that he won't use it because it is goku's technique he can use it tofr, vegeta can't even use it anymore lmfao, and gas was zipping all over the place.
He can, he just won'tfr, vegeta can't even use it anymore lmfao, and gas was zipping all over the place.
No? That's not what that scene implies.Yes but after that he was literally following goku with his I.t he wouldn't be able to do that if his teleportation was inferior
The reason why gas wasn't able to go back was because he didn't know any ki signature to lock on but afterwards when he was in mid flight he was able to lock on goku and vegeta ki signature to teleport
It is literally what it is implying if gas didn't need any ki signatures to teleport than he could literally teleport from planet to planet in the planet cereal direction than just flying and wasting his time and energy also the fact he didn't know any ki signatures to lock onNo? That's not what that scene implies.
Don't worry about it, at this point I think we're discussing two different things.It is literally what it is implying if gas didn't need any ki signatures to teleport than he could literally teleport from planet to planet in the planet cereal direction than just flying and wasting his time and energy also the fact he didn't know any ki signatures to lock on
Btw going to sleep so my replies would be late
I don't think vegeta can use it anymore, he even said hes only fine with using it once, even if he can never do it again, implying he can't, but still, gas is definitely betterIt was stated by vegeta that he won't use it because it is goku's technique he can use it to
As far as i remember, there is something in the daizeenshuu about Namek being in the other side of the universeWhat is the distance if I may ask?
(just wanna know personally)
thats what i have been trying to say, idk why people are bringing up gas' range when it doesn't mean shitGas's Instant Transmission range possibly being inferior to Goku's is irrelevant because Goku could not travel back to Cereal with a single teleportation; he needed to backtrack through the planets he and Gas had explored up to that point, which means that the distance between the planet Whis was on and Cereal is, bare minimum, intergalactic.
Personally it seems more likely to me that Goku backtracked through the teleportations he took to get there because he could already sense them / knew where they were so it was quicker and easier to make those consecutive jumps than it would be to try and focus on sensing someone on Planet Cereal.Gas's Instant Transmission range possibly being inferior to Goku's is irrelevant because Goku could not travel back to Cereal with a single teleportation; he needed to backtrack through the planets he and Gas had explored up to that point, which means that the distance between the planet Whis was on and Cereal is, bare minimum, intergalactic.
Gas's Instant Transmission range possibly being inferior to Goku's is irrelevant because Goku could not travel back to Cereal with a single teleportation; he needed to backtrack through the planets he and Gas had explored up to that point, which means that the distance between the planet Whis was on and Cereal is, bare minimum, intergalactic.
thats what i have been trying to say, idk why people are bringing up gas' range when it doesn't mean shit
So, given we do accept ships and forms of travel that have no reason to be inconsistent as usable for stacking calculations, there is one way to figure out how far away Yardrat is.Don't worry about it, at this point I think we're discussing two different things.
Neither of you gave plausible reasons to reject it, as far as I remember, a vote needs to have an argument to be valid.I believe SamanPatou and I have already voted against using that map.
I'm not saying you can't still propose it, but you'd need more votes supporting it.
It is not an automatic translation, automatic translation is Google, there you can choose several languages, in addition to English or Japanese, it is an official translation from the Dragon Super website itselfIt’s a machine translation, they didn’t pick anything, it wouldn’t matter either, traveling though the universe isn’t always a universal travel feat.
Just because you don't believe the reasons to be plausible does not mean they weren't given. The votes are still valid.Neither of you gave plausible reasons to reject it, as far as I remember, a vote needs to have an argument to be valid.
The reasoning is a false equivalence, comparing apples and oranges.Just because you don't believe the reasons to be plausible does not mean they weren't given. The votes are still valid.
The map is only being used to depict the position of each planet on the universe.No depiction of scale being on the map and nothing to objectively scale the distance against is a reason to vote against it. You don't have to agree with it but you don't have the right to discount votes like that. If you don't like it, convince other staff members to support it.
Scroll down to the bottom of the page and tell me what it says.It is not an automatic translation
Can you explain this bit? The timeline lists a lot of dates & information.
It takes 18 days for Vegeta to flee from Earth and arrive at Frieza Planet #79Can you explain this bit? The timeline lists a lot of dates & information.
Okay. I have a little issue with that but I think I would need to see the actual calc created for this in order to verify.It takes 18 days for Vegeta to flee from Earth and arrive at Frieza Planet #79
It takes then 5 days for him to go from there to Namek.
Where is this shown?That's reductive; I'll tell you what it says.
It says:
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Well, maybe we'll get a teleportation distance in episode 17, where Goku's range is shown visualizing 5 or 3 galaxies, can't we use that to measure?Okay. I have a little issue with that but I think I would need to see the actual calc created for this in order to verify.
Where is this shown?
It's at the bottom of every article.Scroll down to the bottom of the page and tell me what it says.