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(DB Tier 1) We must imagine a DB scaler happy.

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Theglassman12 said:
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@GilverTheProtoAngelo I shall stall you like roadblock in traffic Saruman.
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You have 12 in the name, dragon ball has 12 universes in a timeline.

I don't think this is knowledge.
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Yes, you can shoot me for making an unnecessary comment.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
We're waiting on the revised draft from DT, but even if the different time streams within the timeline don't qualify, there is a possibility the timelines due to being independent Temporal Constructs would be Low 1-C.
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DT actually said that it could extend along the same axis in its independent temporal dimensions. Even time flowing is different does not mean different/extra-axes


So.... Yeah, we're still waiting
 
BasedNecoScaler69 said:
What changes can be applied immediately after this thread?
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If a Timeline is accepted as Low 1-C any character currently scaling to destroying one or all Timelines would be Low 1-C

If the greater zone containing all Timelines is considered Low 1-C, then characters who can effect all Timelines would be Low 1-C.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
We're waiting on the revised draft from DT, but even if the different time streams within the timeline don't qualify, there is a possibility the timelines due to being independent Temporal Constructs would be Low 1-C.
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That would require it's own thread, but the basis this thread is based of is "multiple temporal dimensions based of time that flows in the same direction" which is getting overturned.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
If a Timeline is accepted as Low 1-C = Any character currently scaling to destroying one or all Timelines would be Low 1-C

If the greater zone containing all Timelines is considered Low 1-C, then characters who can effect all Timelines would be Low 1-C.
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So basically
Zeno
All 2-A profiles
 
Afaik the consensus was:

Zeno becomes Low 1-C for being able to destroy the cosmology.

DBH and DBX needs their own thread to apply this to stats (as it was stated verbatim within the course of the thread).
 
PrinceofPein said:
That would require it's own thread, but the basis this thread is based of is "multiple temporal dimensions based of time that flows in the same direction" which is getting overturned.
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Yes, there may be different, inclusive or independent temporal dimensions, but as long as they do not flow in different directions and axes, nothing changes, and this was the basis of the thread I opened
 
ShakeResounding said:
DBH and DBX needs their own thread to apply this to stats (as it was stated verbatim within the course of the thread).
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it isn't needed, pretty unnecessary,
Georredannea15 said:
Yes, there may be different, inclusive or independent temporal dimensions, but as long as they do not flow in different directions and axes, nothing changes, and this was the basis of the thread I opened
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oh, mind to enlighten me on what different time direction look like???
 
ShakeResounding said:
Afaik the consensus was:

Zeno becomes Low 1-C for being able to destroy the cosmology.

DBH and DBX needs their own thread to apply this to stats.
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Uh I don’t think they need their own threads. Just like Qawsef said, any 2-As become directly changed by the result, since they all scale to the destruction of all timelines.

But , We do need a cosmology page though or something to that affect after this thread concludes
 
The_2nd_Existential_Seed said:
Uh I don’t think they need their own threads. Just like Qawsef said, any 2-As become directly changed by the result, since they all scale to the destruction of all timelines.
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Well, if the majority agree with that then I'm cool with it since I don't really care. But haven't people been saying to make a separate thread throughout this one?
 
Vietthai96 said:
oh, mind to enlighten me on what different time direction look like???
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Basically they can't flow forwards or backwards in any capacity. They have to move sideways or have something like time existing in one sectionbefore time existed in another and/or have time continue to exist in one section while time is removed from another.

Alternatively for time traveling, if you do time travel, if the new timeline you land on is completely independent it would also suggest more temporal axis being present.

Or in other words:
  • You have to have a timeline R>F another Timeline. Something that gets you Low 1-C anyways.
  • You have to showcase time not moving forwards or backwards but in an orthogonal direction (which I cannot imagine any non-Suggsverse series doing)
  • You have to showcase an independent existence of time seperate from another's existence in a particular way
The DB Multiverse is probably not Low 1-C under the standards. The Timestreams as a collective are probably Low 1-C since when you time travel you're going to an independent temporal existence rather than a branched Multiverse. At least that is my current haphazard understanding of it.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Basically they can't flow forwards or backwards in any capacity. They have to move sideways or have something like time existing in one sectionbefore time existed in another and/or have time continue to exist in one section while time is removed from another.

Alternatively for time traveling, if you do time travel, if the new timeline you land on is completely independent it would also suggest more temporal axis being present.

Or in other words:
  • You have to have a timeline R>F another Timeline. Something that gets you Low 1-C anyways.
  • You have to showcase time not moving forwards or backwards but in an orthogonal direction (which I cannot imagine any non-Suggsverse series doing)
  • You have to showcase an independent existence of time seperate from another's existence in a particular way
The DB Multiverse is probably not Low 1-C under the standards. The Timestreams as a collective are probably Low 1-C since when you time travel you're going to an independent temporal existence rather than a branched Multiverse. At least that is my current haphazard understanding of it.
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Thank you very much for explaining it to us
 
Vietthai96 said:
it isn't needed, pretty unnecessary,

oh, mind to enlighten me on what different time direction look like???
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The temporal dimension is basically modeled as a 1-dimensional line, I'll give you a simple example

You have two lines in your hand, you put these lines on top of each other different and independent of each other, and you extend them both in the same direction (right-left). Do you think this plane would be 2D? Of course not, in order to be 2-dimensional, one line needs a different axis and direction of motion, and basically this dimension is represented in the direction of motion in the coordinate system (up-and-down), This is what we call "vertical direction/vertical axis"


The situation is the same with timelines, 2 4-dimensional temporal dimensions can have a different and independent time flow and different to each other, but this does not mean that they extend on different axes. 5 of the other temporal dimension. In order for it to make a dimension, a different axis (i.e., as in the line example) must extend infinitely along one axis
 
@Georredannea15 @PrinceofPein Will either of you two actually give examples of characters that would qualify for your version of hypertimelines? The fact you’ve not remotely given examples for this backwards ass logic makes it really hard for anyone to see your side of the argument to be reasonable. Especially if you’re gonna argue Dragon Ball doesn’t qualify for this.
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Georredannea15 @PrinceofPein Will either of you two actually give examples of characters that would qualify for your version of hypertimelines? The fact you’ve not remotely given examples for this backwards ass logic makes it really hard for anyone to see your side of the argument to be reasonable. Especially if you’re gonna argue Dragon Ball doesn’t qualify for this.
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COOK

Like if I’m not mistaken wouldn’t this just downgrade a great deal of tier 1s?
 
Theglassman12 said:
@Georredannea15 @PrinceofPein Will either of you two actually give examples of characters that would qualify for your version of hypertimelines? The fact you’ve not remotely given examples for this backwards ass logic makes it really hard for anyone to see your side of the argument to be reasonable. Especially if you’re gonna argue Dragon Ball doesn’t qualify for this.
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Do I have to give an example for something? Because they wanted it in the thread they wanted, but DT didn't pay much attention to it and basically supported what I wrote (even questioning the old standards were like this and why they changed)

In short, these were things that used to happen, just not in a very detailed way
 
Georredannea15 said:
Do I have to give an example for something? Because they wanted it in the thread they wanted, but DT didn't pay much attention to it and basically supported what I wrote (even questioning the old standards were like this and why they changed)

In short, these were things that used to happen, just not in a very detailed way
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Do I have to give an example for something short answer yes, long answer is yes absolutely without an exception.
 
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