D&D Adventurer WIP Blog Pt. IV

[Qawsedf234]

If only the Pyreen had offical stats.

 

[Qawsedf234]

You know, thinking about it. We could also make a profile for Heracles. He would have a 6-C and a High 6-A key.

 

[Qawsedf234]

> Portfolio Sense: Hercules is aware of any athletic competition that involves one thousand or more people, and any outstanding achievement of stamina or physical prowess (such as climbing a mountain), provided it is known to at least one thousand people.

God tier precog right here man.

 

[Qawsedf234]

While working on the Heracles/Hercules profile I also decided to do Hades since he has some nifty power statements.

• Hades WIP

• Hercules WIP

Also before I get to far into this should we label it as "Hercules (Dungeons and Dragons)" or "Heracles (Dungeons and Dragons)" because he goes by both names seemingly.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Why is Hercules dumb.

gdfkndammit.

Also for the name I'll just say Hercules since that's the more common name IIRC?

 

[Qawsedf234]

In 1e and the start of 2e he went by Heracles, but seemingly since the end of 2e he's been consistently referred to as Hercules.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Started on the Hercules profile. I'll try and finish both by Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I think I've finished Hades. I'll take a break and start working on Hercules now.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Alright.

Just lmk if you need an image rendered.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Two.

• Hades

• Hercules

 

[Qawsedf234]

So according to Dungeon #149 Iggwilv is a CR 30 spell caster. Also to add, shouldn't Elminster be High 6-A rather than 6-B? The Phaethon is a CR 34 monster and Elminster is considered a CR 39 fight even without prep.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

If you wanna consider CR that far, yeah. I figured we'd just describe all Epic level encounters as 6-B unless lore reasons made it otherwise. I'm fine with that proposal though.

 

[Qawsedf234]

That is a good point. Maybe keep the current stat and add a "possibly" rating?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

That'd work, too, with how unreliable CR can be that's probably the best bet. We're lucky Phaethon is essentially the most haxless thing in D&D aside from the baseline goblin, since we know his CR is almost entirely from raw stats.

 

[Qawsedf234]

> Phaethon is essentially the most haxless thing in D&D aside from the baseline goblin

Cries in lava tears

 

[Mr. Bambu]

it is though

like I've never seen such a high CR monster have so little going for it

100 arms is bad but he's at least got fucktons of attacks

phaethon just exists

 

[Qawsedf234]

They traded hax for AP and heat range.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also if it wasn't for the calc stacking you could probably get some hilarious result from Hercules' OP arrows.

>No one is capable of dodging his arrows within half-a-mile.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Possibly or I guess just High 6-A Elm is fine, since he is one of the very few things with a CR actually above the Phaethon that doesn't automatically scale to higher stuff.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Added Hades and Hercules. Dunno if its the correct choice, but since Hercules' most famous era in-universe was as a legendary hero I put him in the protagonist section. But I can move him if he fits better with the deities.

> Possibly or I guess just High 6-A Elm is fine

If others agree then I can change his rating to "At least 6-B, possibly High 6-A".

 

[Qawsedf234]

So how's everything going? Haven't started on the psion profile but I will soon. Its just a big hurdle to handle.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Boy you aren't kidding.

We should make a "standard" adventurer profile with abilities common to all of them- racial abilities, tiers, speeds, etc- and then copy on the stuff from individual spells.

 

[Qawsedf234]

The spells are legitimately the largest issue that I don't know how to cover. Even for someone with a small amount of material like the psion, they have hundreds of different powers. Let alone Clerics or heaven's forbid Wizards.

AP, speed, durability, etc should all be standard yeah. I can start working on a general purpose page. But races are an issue. Imo, to cut down some issues, I say we just stick to the default races presented in 5e. Rather than the massive cluster bomb of 2e of the web of insanity that is 3e player races (the latter of which had it be theoretically possible for someone to play as a Clerical Tyrannosaurus Rex)

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Yeah it should be a long while since we have to look over secondary books, too. Tons of dungeons and misc books have their own spell lists (as seen with Strahd with his Soul Anchor).

Not sure I agree with the races thing but I don't have a method to put them in aside from putting them all at the end with "Possibly".

 

[Qawsedf234]

Why must D&D have so many spells. Wizards are already OP, stop making them worse.

But rant aside I'll start working on that standard stat thing.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Took a bit but I made a pretty good copy-paste model. The main issue is how to tackle things like range, weaknesses, and lifting strength.

Also one benefit of making all the profiles is that scaling is much easier since we can just link them.

 

[Dragonstitch]

So I do have a quick question. Since it apears the 5e has merged some of the classes of 4e together. Like from what I can find the Oath of Vengeance Paladin is basicly the a fused version of the paladin, and 4Es avenger class. would it make sense the avanger powers to the paladin?

 

[Qawsedf234]

If the 5e Paladin has a similar power set, then its probably worth discussing.

 

[Dragonstitch]

From what I have seen the Oath of Vengeance gives the 5e paladins, the avenger's signature power oath of enmity , a very similar channel divinity power to the Avenger and the level 7 feature looks to be based of the avenger powers that gain bonus stuff from being a Censure of Pursuit Avenger.

 

[Dragonstitch]

Okay something I noticed about the template. the speed amp from speed of thought should only be on the psion page since it is from the battlemind class.

 

[Udlmaster]

I mean, I was doing all of 3.x and cataloging then but unfortunately, ones laptop proceeded to end itself and thusly ruined my efforts and set me back around 900 pages worth of the Spell bible.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

The same happened to me actually, I have yet to be able to fix it.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'll remove the psion stuff when I get the chance

 

[Dragonstitch]

so I found a magic item that could give a the melee classes a reach of 25 feet.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

stack it with the stretchy weapon in PHB II and you've got 30 ft melee

 

[Qawsedf234]

So in Mystara there's a nation called the Empire of Alphatia. The ruling council for the nation is composed of 1,000 level 36 mages. Although taking conversion into account its a thousand level 20 to 28 mages (still pretty extreme though).

 

[Qawsedf234]

Also here's a passage about Immortals time travelling. I don't know if it counts for a confirmed Immeasurable rating though.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Guess I'll search to see if there's anymore Blackmoor statements.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I checked and there was nothing more than what I already got. Well, besides the fact that they had robots, hover disks, and a space colony I guess.

 

[Dragonstitch]

well time to start going through the 4e wizard and it's sub classes.