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Confusion about Zen'o's erasure/Future as a whole

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What's the point of a universal calendar and universal time measurements for all universes if each universe is a seperate space time continuum?
 
And so stuff that makes DBS timeline only Low 2-C at best is more consistent than 2-C ones.

Can't wait this to be closed because "It's 2-C because we say so and we already discussed it a lot".
 
Yea that scene exists in the anime:
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So, we have:
  1. Whis statement of only a flow of time
  2. Grand Priest statement about 40 hours being the same in all the universes.
  3. Time Travel cloning all the universes.
Like, what else you need to prove it? ROSAT has literally 0 proof of being a space time except speculations that even contradict how we treat such spaces in other verses.
 
StrymULTRA said:
I think you understand only what you want to. I'm saying that ROSAT has the same flow, only that it's distorted. Literally nothing says that has its own flow in the verse.

And I'd gladly appreciate if this thread doesn't get derailed just because of a possible downgrade. We're much more professional than this.
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It's literally stated that the room is completely shut off from the living world, it can't share the same time as that world that way, how do you know it's only distorted? the reason you said time flow can be different is because of time dilation, but that's not the case in the ROSAT.
 
ROSAT literally shares the same direction of time flow as the normal universe. Just the rate of the time flow is different. It literally disproves it being a seperate space time continuum
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
It's literally stated that the room is completely shut off from the living world, it can't share the same time as that world that way, how do you know it's only distorted? the reason you said time flow can be different is because of time dilation, but that's not the case in the ROSAT.
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Even pocket dimensions are completely separated from the universe, but we don't treat them as beyond its Space time.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Even pocket dimensions are completely separated from the universe, but we don't treat them as beyond its Space time.
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This is wrong. Clearly not because the creation page clearly states that a pocket dimension can still be low 2-C if it is universal sized and has it's own timeline.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Assuming that the ROSAT has its flow of time after it was debunked like 5 times here and you just repeated "it's separated and has its flow of time" over and over.
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You didn't debunk it, you said different flow of time =/= time flowing differently, and you backed that up with an example of time dilation, which is wrong because 1 the ROSAT is separate from the living universe and shut off from it and 2 time dilation has nothing to do with ROSATs abnormal time flow.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
You didn't debunk it, you said different flow of time =/= time flowing differently, and you backed that up with an example of time dilation, which is wrong because 1 the ROSAT is separate from the living universe and shut off from it and 2 time dilation has nothing to do with ROSATs abnormal time flow.
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But ROSAT isn't shut off, it's still in the boundaries of U7 like afterlife is.
 
StrymULTRA said:
But ROSAT isn't shut off, it's still in the boundaries of U7 like afterlife is.
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Goku says that as soon as the door closes, the living world is shut out.
And by the way, the afterlife is also sealed off from the living world, it's only accessed through dying or teleportation.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
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Goku says that as soon as the door closes, the living world is shut out.
And by the way, the afterlife is also sealed off from the living world, it's only accessed through dying or teleportation.
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It being separated means literally nothing as it's still under the same flow of Time. Also both Afterlife and Living universe are currently treated as part of the same 3-A structure, so why ROSAT should be different as it has no proof of being separated except your headcanon of "time is warped there so it means that has a completely different flow of time"?
 
StrymULTRA said:
It being separated means literally nothing as it's still under the same flow of Time. Also both Afterlife and Living universe are currently treated as part of the same 3-A structure, so why ROSAT should be different as it has no proof of being separated except your headcanon of "time is warped there so it means that has a completely different flow of time"?
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It's not under the same flow of time. what the hell? I just sent you the scan saying that the dimension is shut out from the living world and you're asking that question? Yes time flow is different due to just how that dimension works, you are saying it's distorted but giving no actual proof to why.
 
Time in HTC is different ti the universe, it has its own flow of time.
1 day in the universe = 1 year in HTC, so about 356 ish difference between the two
the HTC isn't a normal dimension, it's enclosed to the point that goku who can travel to the after life with IT, can't do it to HTC. It's an enclosed dimension with different flow of time, and can only be accessed by a door that connects between HTC and the living world or breaking the dimensional walls between the two dimensions.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
It's not under the same flow of time. what the hell? I just sent you the scan saying that the dimension is shut out from the living world and you're asking that question? Yes time flow is different due to just how that dimension works, you are saying it's distorted but giving no actual proof to why.
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I'm saying that is distorted since is faster. It being shut off from the living world means nothing since even Afterlife is and yet it's counted as in the same 3-A structure. Wanna a proof? Easily, common sense. We go from low ends so saying that it is a pocket dimension under the same space time but with time being distorted requires much less assumptions than saying it's a whole space time with its own time flow, especially that was NEVER DIRECTLY STATED.
 
Orange said:
Time in HTC is different ti the universe, it has its own flow of time.
1 day in the universe = 1 year in HTC, so about 356 ish difference between the two
the HTC isn't a normal dimension, it's enclosed to the point that goku who can travel to the after life with IT, can't do it to HTC. It's an enclosed dimension with different flow of time, and can only be accessed by a door that connects between HTC and the living world or breaking the dimensional walls between the two dimensions.
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Yet Afterlife isn't a space time despite having similar statements soooo.
 
Hmm
So if I am understanding it correctly, people are arguing that ROSAT has a different time flow because of being disconnected from U7, but U7 is its own space time continuum because of containing ROSAT.

Let that sink in...
 
Darksmash said:
Hmm
So if I am understanding it correctly, people are arguing that ROSAT has a different time flow because of being disconnected from U7, but U7 is its own space time continuum because of containing ROSAT.

Let that sink in...
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And because time flows differently in HTC
 
Orange said:
There are only three statements about afterlife having different time than the living universe
"Time doesn't mean much/ time doesn't exist" and calling the living universe a temporal world in anime
which are all not accepted
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Which confirms my point on why ROSAT shouldn't too lmao
 
StrymULTRA said:
I'm saying that is distorted since is faster. It being shut off from the living world means nothing since even Afterlife is and yet it's counted as in the same 3-A structure. Wanna a proof? Easily, common sense. We go from low ends so saying that it is a pocket dimension under the same space time but with time being distorted requires much less assumptions than saying it's a whole space time with its own time flow, especially that was NEVER DIRECTLY STATED.
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Time being different in a separate dimension from the universe is not due to time dilation distorting it but because it's a separate space time. The reason why the after life is not considered a space time is because Goku can teleport from earth to it but can't to places in the living world. Why would it's time be the same time as in the living world but be distorted for no reason? There isn't actually anything debunking it being a space time, you are saying it's distorted for reasons that don't even exist.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Time being different in a separate dimension from the universe is not due to time dilation distorting it but because it's a separate space time.
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Because...?
FluffyCreatureZ said:
The reason why the after life is not considered a space time is because Goku can teleport from earth to it but can't to places in the living world. Why would it's time be the same time as in the living world but be distorted for no reason?
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It's treated as spatially disconnected and has a different time from the "time has no meaning here" statement.
FluffyCreatureZ said:
There isn't actually anything debunking it being a space time, you are saying it's distorted for reasons that don't even exist.
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So time being faster isn't a reason for it being distorted. Genius.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Because...?

It's treated as spatially disconnected and has a different time from the "time has no meaning here" statement.

So time being faster isn't a reason for it being distorted. Genius.
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Because it's exactly what you described below, spatially disconnected and has different time due to how time behaves.
The reason why the afterlife isn't considered low 2-C is apparently because goku can still teleport from earth to king kai's but there are places in the living world he can't teleport to.
Time being slower you mean? Anyway that means it has a different time flow, you haven't given any other reason as to why it has a different time flow so it can only mean it's a separate space time.
 
FluffyCreatureZ said:
Because it's exactly what you described below, spatially disconnected and has different time due to how time behaves.
The reason why the afterlife isn't considered low 2-C is apparently because goku can still teleport from earth to king kai's but there are places in the living world he can't teleport to.
Time being slower you mean? Anyway that means it has a different time flow, you haven't given any other reason as to why it has a different time flow so it can only mean it's a separate space time.
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Time being faster/slower in a place doesn't mean said place has a different flow if time. How hard is to understand this? Anyway, I'll ignore you from now since you're being redundant with the same debunked arguments and I'll keep continuing to discuss this in the cosmology CRT. Bye.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Time being faster/slower in a place doesn't mean said place has a different flow if time. How hard is to understand this? Anyway, I'll ignore you from now since you're being redundant with the same debunked arguments and I'll keep continuing to discuss this in the cosmology CRT. Bye.
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Not if that place is sealed off and separate from a universes main space time continuum.
 
StrymULTRA said:
And that's again just a pocket dimension where time is warped. This will be the last time I'll repeat this as keeping arguing this in Q&A brings nothing.
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You're just saying time is warped without giving a reason as to why it is warped, we know time there acts differently and the only way it would is if it had it's own time, especially when it's already implied to be a space time continuum. Oh? what was that about ignoring me?
 
The ROSAT doesn't even matter as U7 and the rest of the universes don't have the same relationship that U7 shares with the ROSAT, in-fact, GP proves the opposite.

It doesn't matter if the ROSAT would me low 2-C if it were universal in size, the fact is, it's not and the 12 universes don't share the same properties.
 
Hasty12345 said:
The ROSAT doesn't even matter as U7 and the rest of the universes don't have the same relationship that U7 shares with the ROSAT, in-fact, GP proves the opposite.

It doesn't matter if the ROSAT would me low 2-C if it were universal in size, the fact is, it's not and the 12 universes don't share the same properties.
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Sorry to derail, but I see you have the nuclear physicist himself as your pfp
 
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