But what it's saying is still true, the ROSAT is a separate space time continuum, and before you ask, the reason why U7 is not 2-c is because the ROSAT is not universal in size. The purpose of that thread is to explain why the ratings are why they are, but it accidentally turned into an upgrade thread then a downgrade thread.
I'm pretty sure that it being called a dimension of time isn't absolutely a proof of that ngl. Is there something that hints it at more than being just a 5-B sized place where time is messed up?
It's completely separate and sealed off from the living world and has it's own flow of time, that is pretty clearly a separate space time continuum.
It's isolated from the rest of the universe and it has it's own flow of time because 1 day in the living world equals one year inside.
Again, that's not a proof, it's literally just a planetary sized pocket dimension where time works differently, not that has its own time. I'll ask it again: is there something more that should prove it being its own space time or it's literally just a pocket dimension where time is faster?
What's exactly the proof of IZ being Low 2-C anyway? Like, everytime someone questions it, thread gets instantly closed because "we already discussed this too much times, he is Low 2-C because we say so". Like, we don't treat expanding to other universes as 4D AP, only range, it's literally the reason why HA DIO isn't 2-A, bit even 4-A in first key despite having 2-A range. So, what's the proof other than that?
It doesn't matter if it's considered a pocket reality or whatever that means, it is still a dimension that is separate and isolated from the main universe, it having a different flow of time means it also has it's space time. why are you saying "just a pocket dimension where time is faster" like it doesn't mean that it's a space time continuum?
the reason why IZ is considered low 2-C is because he merged with a space time continuum, as it literally became his body.
Because that's not how space time continuums work. Every pocket dimension is spatially separated from the universe, and having a flow of time means that it's not affected from any other flow of time, which it's obviously not the case as it's influenced from U7. It's literally just a place where time doesn't flow normally, not that has an indipendent one, you need direct statements for that.
If we're going to revise the nature of the universes, that feat being Low 2-C would be null tbh.
there isn't any
It's time flow is not influenced by U7 at all, it's time flow is completely different, you are not making any sense, how can time run differently in one place and be spatially separate and yet not be a space time continuum?
where's the proof U1-12 have different spacetime continua? there's 0 proof they have any sort of relationship akin to the ROSAT and U7, like literally 0.
Because that can be perfectly interpreted as only a place where time goes differently. Trick Room in Pokémon literally works like that and obviously it's not a space time.
I dunno man, every psychic pokemon is clearly low 2-C
I'd love to see evidence of the latest part. And I mean scans, not "each universe is Low 2-C because I say so". C'mon, it's not that hard.
what is that shitty comparison? the trick room doesn't control time, it just makes slower pokemon have priority over faster pokemon, it has nothing to do with the ROSAT. The ROSAT is completely separate and isolated from U7's living world, Goku can't even sense ki from there, so how can it still be under the same time flow as universe 7 when time there works completely differently?
Them being called universes and being separate from each other means that they have their own space times, them being effected by time travel doesn't disprove this, the note on zeno's page explains it.
I think he's saying Whis isn't implying your claim, but it doesn't matter as 12 spatially separated 3-A structures can have different events (history) and still not be temporally separated.
There's no proof each universe is a low 2-C structure though..... The time machine literally proves there's only 1 temporal dimension shared between the universes regardless of spatial separation.
Because, again, that's not a proof, our standards are much higher than that. Unless you think that planes and black holes have their own flow of time because time passes differently there as well.
This. Saying they are implies that Whis doesn't know how time works and given the character would be non sense.
The time machine is confusing af, zeno destroyed the entire multiverse and the time ring, them going back in time makes no sense. This doesn't mean that each of the universes aren't low 2-C.
Black holes are clearly inside the same space time as the regular universe, the ROSAT is not, it's an isolated pocket dimension, even the creation page in the pocket dimension section says that pocket dimensions can be low 2-C if they were universal in size and had a timeline, the ROSAT being separate and isolated plus having it's own different flow of time means it should be it's own space time, if you want you can talk with someone smarter about this, my knowledge is right about to peak.
The analogy serves its purpose.
Yeah, it kind of does, as it means Zeno didn't destroy the entire timeline, the plot literally contradicts the scaling.
Ah so you believe that the universes are low 2-C individually? screen shot.
Isolated pocket dimensions can still be inside the same space time as the universe giving the nature of the former. Plus, again, having time flowing differently =/= different flow of time. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence and yours isn't even an evidence but just a thing that isn't treated as you want to in other verses.
rip, my bad I misread what he said.
This is true but the ROSAT having a different time flow means that it is not under the same space time. the examples you gave for a different time flow were due to time dilation, the ROSAT's time flow is not due to time dilation, it's literally just how the dimension works. Your examples don't actually disprove the ROSAT having a different flow of time
too late, I've screen shot it, exposed, concession accepted.
IKR blue vegito can't even destroy a city, Broly's ki blasts only destroyed boulders, when they impact the ground.
I think you understand only what you want to. I'm saying that ROSAT has the same flow, only that it's distorted. Literally nothing says that has its own flow in the verse.
We're arguing about the anime. The manga is a separate continuity.How can they be separated space and times when they shares the same time flow?
And when shit like this happens?:
