Chinawoman vs Pink Ball

[InfiniteSped]

For the 5th Stronkest non-smurf.

Xian Fa vs Kirby

Post Star Allies Kirby, with his optional equipment, I guess. Speed equalized if needed.

 

[Jinsye]

what does she do

 

[InfiniteSped]

Hit him a bit with the weapons from her armor, then nuke him with the Mortal Sword if he doesn't go down, I guess.

 

[Eficiente]

So, does she ignore dura with any attack via shattering space and time? Kirby's yet to resist the latter. For now.

 

[That.one.mofo]

Kirby resists almost all of her Haxs besides law manip, which is something (paint)Kirby Has already. And since Xian doesn't resist almost any of Kirby's Haxs, I'd vote for Kirby

 

[InfiniteSped]

So, does she ignore dura with any attack via shattering space and time? Kirby's yet to resist the latter. For now.

Yeah, attacks of her level should shatter space-time quite easily.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Kirby resists almost all of her Haxs besides law manip, which is something (paint)Kirby Has already. And since Xian doesn't resist almost any of Kirby's Haxs, I'd vote for Kirby

What haxes can he use to beat her?

 

[That.one.mofo]

BFR, Transmutation, and morality/empathic manipulation (in base form) existence erasure, life force absorption and possession (ghost) too name a few.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Life Force, she has a ridiculous amount (enough to power a 3-B weapon). Possession, she can probably resist due to her Fate Palaces that protect her soul. The rest, depends on how they work, or if Kirby would actually use them as a first move/in the start, before she takes him down.

 

[Everything12]

Kirby's starting move is either sucking her into his stomach to instantly Transmute her, or throwing a Friend Heart that use Morality Manip to switch her to his side.

 

[That.one.mofo]

I agree with what you said about his life force but still, all Kirby does with the life force absorption is bring him back to life. protecting her soul wouldn't mean protecting her body which is all kirby needs to do. kirby uses morality/empathic manipulation in character notably in star allies. Once he's done possesing someone he erases them, with inhale he can choose to either bfr them into his infinite parallel dimension, or turn them into a star. heck, the only thing festival/cook kirby can do is dance, cook, and transmute someone after dancing near them and cooking them.

 

[InfiniteSped]

She's quite a stone wall, not even 3-B attacks can move her around much, so sucking her might be beyond his capabilities. Her body is protected by her armor as well, and it should repel spirits quite easy, so just possession shouldn't reach her body or soul.

Morality thing , again, would depend on how it works. Does it have to touch her, just be seen, has an aura, etc? Will she stay on his side if he starts attacking her, or preparing an attack?

Can he survive an attack from her that shatters space-time?

 

[That.one.mofo]

Ah, alright. If he can't inhale her, he can reduce her into data ghost Kirby can posses people with armor.

I don't think the heart has to touch her If his friends don't attack him after he throws them into a transmutating pot, or send them flying after being stab by a horn. Than am pretty sure Xian won't attack him either.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Inhale is AP and weight based as opposed to durability based. It's why Saitama for example gets ragdoll Ed in his fights with fodder despite not being able to feel anything.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Not even 3-B attacks can ragdoll her, she can stand her ground just fine against inhaling.

Magic equipment and magic-y stuff in general in ED has Non-Physical Interaction and can destroy souls and ghosts. She has the most legendary armor in existence and shitz, it can surely repel a ghost from possessing her.

Data seems fine, but, again, he has so much shit, would he even use that before losing?

When he's throwing his friends, it looks to me like they're flailing their arms and trying to break free, so, she can probably fight back if he turns unfriendly.

There's also the issue of range, his seems rather low aside from a few stuff:

Range: Standard melee range by himself and most copy abilities with weapons (Kirby is 20cm tall). Extended melee range with some projectiles and inhale (His inhale can also suck things bigger than his body without problems). Higher with Boost Orbs (Some of them increase the range of his attacks). Interstellar with meteor summoning, projectiles and shockwaves (Presumably launched Marx from a moon to NOVA, who was at interstellar distances. Batted a meteor lightyears away

She can easily attack from the 4km SBA range, and might one-shot if he can't resist space-time shitz. I feel like she can resist a lot of his stuff, the inhaling things seem pretty useless, and has a good potential to take him out with better range, and a decent nuke with the Mortal Sword if he can resist the regular attacks.

 

[Nepuko]

Yea, seems like Xian Fan takes it.

 

[Zaratthustra]

That range is really bad for a 3-B fight and the Intersetallar range with meteor, projectilees and shockwaves will do nothing versus China.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Um, why would he try to harm her even more if she is already incapped with a friend heart. that isn't in character at all

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If Kirby resists spatial manipulation, he no-sells the space-time cutting. Attacks that cut space that hit you are problematic. Attacks that do the same to time are meaningless unless they like, erase your own time or something.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Is being friendly incap though? If neither will hurt each other, seems more like an incon.

There's the issue of it having enough range to hit her too.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Is being friendly incap though? If neither will hurt each other, seems more like an incon.
There's the issue of it having enough range to hit her too.

Pretty sure friend hearts incapping they way they do count as a win for kirby

 

[InfiniteSped]

If Kirby resists spatial manipulation, he no-sells the space-time cutting. Attacks that cut space that hit you are problematic. Attacks that do the same to time are meaningless unless they like, erase your own time or something.

According to the profile, at least, spatial attacks seem to hurt him:

Spatial Manipulation (Physically unaffected by said interstellar distortions, otherwise only harmed if reached by those or any space-based attacks;

 

[InfiniteSped]

Pretty sure friend hearts incapping they way they do count as a win for kirby

Seems weird since she's not harmed or actually incapacitated in any way.

Regardless, apparently incap has to last for a whole day, according to SBA. Does the heart thing last that long?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Problem is, those are people on his physical level. Kirby has the AP advantage here by miles.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Granted, what's to stop Kirby from picking her up and putting her in his mouth? His lifting strength eclipses her Unknown. And how come Kirby can't fuse her with one of his copy abilities, or turn her into bubbles?

 

[InfiniteSped]

I don't think AP matters if you're using durability negating hax like spatial shattering. Regardless, if she can't kill him normally, she whips out the Mortal Sword and nukes him.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Granted, what's to stop Kirby from picking her up and putting her in his mouth? His lifting strength eclipses her Unknown. And how come Kirby can't fuse her with one of his copy abilities, or turn her into bubbles?

Range, his is kinda crappy, it seems. I don't know every hax he has, or if he'd use any of them, or if they can actually hit her if she's hitting him from beyond the horizon. Actually explaining how it works or if he'd use those instead of the crapton of others he has would be helpful.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Something tells me the chick doesn't snipe from planets away.

Eating is self explanatory and it's Kirby's main draw for the past 25+ years, bro. Everyone knows this.

Fusing people with copy abilities isn't as self explanatory. He takes his copy ability and throws it at an opponent, turning them into a mix ability.

Bubble is a normal copy ability. He blows bubbles that turn others into bubbles.

 

[InfiniteSped]

They start at 4km away, and she can see him and attack from that far quite easily. No reason to get close against a small pink ball she knows nothing about. People at her level throw planetary ***** all the time, yes. Attacks blow up stars as a side effect all the time, her first appearance is blocking a seal that covered the stars and shielding herself from it by covering the horizon.

I already explained why he can't inhale her, unless he can suck someone who stands strong against 3-B attacks without being moved. He also has range issues, most of his stuffs seems to be melee range or just a tad higher.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

She can't see him given he's 8 inches tall. Try seeing that small from across the street, let alone from 4 kilometers away. Furthermore, just because they do that doesn't mean they're launching things from that range. Dragon Ball is a prime example. Planet busting is slightwork for anyone worth their stuff yet all the fights are within normal combat range.

That's not how it works. She doesn't weigh that of a galaxy, and she doesn't have comparable lifting strength. Just because the dude has the strength to blow up a galaxy doesn't mean he has the strength to move one. Goku has the strength to blow up a universe but he struggles to lift a black hole.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Cultivators have Heavenly Gazes that can see things from millions of kilometers away, I'm sure she won't have a problem from 4km away.

Emperor's Domination is not Dragon Ball, planets are the size of Solar Systems, and tiny countries are larger than the sun. Large distances for them matter very little, and she has no reason to rush into melee range against Kirby.

A Great Power Virtuous Paragons can destroy galaxies and use what's left of them as a shield, moving them in front of him in the process. These guys can move galaxies, but can't send her flying with their attacks. It's even pretty normal to be yeeted to another country if you're hit by an attack beyond what you can handle btw.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Fair enough.

Okay this series is sounding a little dumb with sun sized countries. Does it matter the size of the worlds? You'd have to give reason that this apparent swordswoman doesn't just use melee attacks instead of cowardly sniping from another solar system, especially when her opponent spits back all her attacks that are ranged.

You didn't prove they could move galaxies, only that they could blow them up and hide behind them. And yeeting someone to another country doesn't have the lifting strength to be in the stellar category.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Her melee attacks are her sniping. She can morph her armor into giant weapons and hit him from kilometers away. Even her Mortal Sword just sends a giant energy beam of death instead of hitting the enemy with it (Edit: Reading it again, she does slash a guy with it, but it can surely be used at range too. She won't start with it or anything, and it should blast through most of Kirby's stuff without any issue anyway). She has no reason to have a chivalrous fight with Kirby or anything.

https://imgur.com/a/8e5MJ5f

Just there, an Ancestor uses galaxies as shields, he can move them just fine. You can't hide behind them before moving them first, they're too far away from each other, he had to move them as a shield. I'm talking about people being yeeted to show that it does happen in her verse, and she's just strong enough to withstand the attack.

Edit: The inhaling part doesn't matter too much if she's outta range, so I'd say this is more about if he can survive her ranged attacks, at least. Can he survive her attacks? This should end as soon as it starts if he can't.

 

[Galactagod]

Since this is a fight for the 5 strongest non smurf 4-A, shouldn't speed be unequal, or is everyone on that non smurf list equal for each tier?

 

[InfiniteSped]

I believe fights are done both ways, so it can have 2 rounds, I guess.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Is Ghost Kirby allowed here

 

[InfiniteSped]

I don't know, he has 50 million keys. Does he ever have it all at once?

 

[Galactagod]

Then Kirby blitzing for the un= round. Unsure about the second one. honestly depends what copy ability he starts with.

 

[InfiniteSped]

What are his speed feats?

 

[Galactagod]

3335c for chinawoma vs 468,835,128,354,807,500 c for the pink ball