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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Their physical strength and abilities both get stronger, as the entire rest of the story has shown. However, as also shown, their physical strength doesn't automatically scale to their abilities. As such. you can't just scale the physicals of one devil above the special abilities of another. A prime example is how Blood Devil Power can tear through Makima with her blood manipulation, to the point where Makima tried to used a sword made from 100 Years against her, yet got wrecked by the Mantis Devil and a bunch of zombies.
So, just to confirm, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're more feared than another devil, that means you just have higher striking strength, durability, and etc, but not higher output than a lower devil period from their abilities? If so, I'm a bit skepitc, because isn't Darkness and Makima like weak striking strength wise?

Also, you said their abilities get stronger too, so why wouldn't this mean their abilities would be more <powerful> than a lower feared devil?
 
So, just to confirm, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're more feared than another devil, that means you just have higher striking strength, durability, and etc, but not higher output than a lower devil period from their abilities?
The "output" here does not exist, because Fujimoto doesn't work on the logic of an "output", but more than "what you can do with your power". Like for the storm devil, it's ability yield an enormous energy of that of a storm, but what can it even do with it? The "output" hence is meaningless, and because Chainsaw Man doesn't work on an energy system, the "output" is even more meaningless.
 
The "output" here does not exist, because Fujimoto doesn't work on the logic of an "output", but more than "what you can do with your power". Like for the storm devil, it's ability yield an enormous energy of that of a storm, but what can it even do with it? The "output" hence is meaningless, and because Chainsaw Man doesn't work on an energy system, the "output" is even more meaningless.
I'm still confused. Like, for example, we have two devils, Typhoon and Control. Control is more feared than Typhoon, meaning Control's abilities and strength are more powerful than that of Typhoon. Thus, this would mean Typhoon, who can yield like X joules - something through the catalyst of power, gets outclassed by Control simply because Control has more power than Typhoon, and this is in every way possible. Like, I know Fujimotto doesn't care about the "output" logic, but isn't this still what's happening? He doesn't have to comfirm it in the manga, it's just the fact that a devil more feared and powerful than a lower devil means they can just produce more power, regardless of how they do it, whether it be AP, DC, whatever.
 
So, just to confirm, correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're more feared than another devil, that means you just have higher striking strength, durability, and etc, but not higher output than a lower devil period from their abilities?
Don't like that word output but yes. (This does create a scaling triangle in the current arc that can only be resolved by picking one statement over another, but we'll figure that out later)
If so, I'm a bit skepitc, because isn't Darkness and Makima like weak striking strength wise?
Makima was capable of punching a weakened Pochita's limbs off, saws included. It's weak comparsd to the Finger Gun, but she got that by beating 20% Gun, so it's not something innate to Makima.

Primal Fears just rarely seem to throw punches in general. Would be weird if Cthulhu's main way of attacking was dropkicks and full-Nelsons.
Also, you said their abilities get stronger too, so why wouldn't this mean their abilities would be more <powerful> than a lower feared devil?
Because Devil abilities are less "energy output" based and more:
 
Almost as good a team name as Team Yoru'sNotStupidSHE'SNOT!
I'll be fr I planned on bringing up her finding Denji's button, investigating it, and finding his school as a reason as to why her intelligence should be rated higher... and then remembered Denji was intentionally leaving evidence of his identity after every fight as Chainsaw Man 😭
 
Another question, should Makima scale to Pochita durabiltiy/striking strength, etc wise because she claims that her alongside the other 4 horseman has fought Pochita for decades?
 
Team Barem'sNotAPowerscaler will win.
Me on my way to ignore everything Barem said (his ass can't powerscale for shi):


But seriously, let's just ignore barem, bro is just yapping shit
Another question, should Makima scale to Pochita durabiltiy/striking strength, etc wise because she claims that her alongside the other 4 horseman has fought Pochita for decades?
Why would she?
 
I'll be fr I planned on bringing up her finding Denji's button, investigating it, and finding his school as a reason as to why her intelligence should be rated higher... and then remembered Denji was intentionally leaving evidence of his identity after every fight as Chainsaw Man 😭
Oh damn you're right- that's so funny I didn't even think of that. Yoshida heard a rumor about Chainsaw Man being in 4th East High despite literally just transferring there too. Man was probably leaving so much more evidence besides the buttons...
me with Yuji.
Speaking of Yoru and Yuji, they've got a match up that needs to be removed since it says initial Yuji's 9-A for some reason.
 
It's hard to believe that Yoru has lower intelligence than Power
Yoru ain't winning any Nobel Peace Prizes that's for sure. (Also Power wouldn't test a gun by putting it against her head and firing.)
Another question, should Makima scale to Pochita durabiltiy/striking strength, etc wise because she claims that her alongside the other 4 horseman has fought Pochita for decades?
No, she's demonstrably weaker than non-weakened Pochita in stats.
From Yoru's Profile:
Yuji Itadori (Jujutsu Kaisen) Yuji's Profile ('Fearsome Womb Arc' Yuji and 'Pre-Chainsaw Man Church Arc' Yoru Were Being Used. Yuji had the Slaughter Demon Dagger, Yoru had Tanaka's Spinal Cord Sword and Hand Grenade, They started 25 meters apart and speed was equalized)
Anyways, Denji speed not scaling to Katana's new calc is diabolical enough.
Post-Training or Post-Chainsaw Church? Because I've got a month's worth of arguments for why the former isn't true.
 
Then what did she mean by that staement? Wouldn't it entail she's relative and scales to him in those ways?
...Please tell me you're joking. Please tell me that you're just intentionally trying to waste time and get under my skin.

I swear, I know I shouldn't be rude on the internet but you're making it so easy.
 
Yoru ain't winning any Nobel Peace Prizes that's for sure. (Also Power wouldn't test a gun by putting it against her head and firing.)

No, she's demonstrably weaker than non-weakened Pochita in stats.

From Yoru's Profile:


Post-Training or Post-Chainsaw Church? Because I've got a month's worth of arguments for why the former isn't true.
The current Denji (or post-fear boosted)
Then what did she mean by that staement? Wouldn't it entail she's relative and scales to him in those ways?
Think again for 0.1 second on why that would imply that she's relative to him in any way.
 
Then what did she mean by that staement? Wouldn't it entail she's relative and scales to him in those ways?
Makima fought and defeated the Gun Devil in a mere few seconds. Do you think, based on that fight, Makima would be able to punch harder than the Gun Devil?

The answer is obviously that she can't. Devils have more to them than stats. Ergo, stating that Pochita "fought the four Horsemen" says nothing about what Makima was doing in that fight. Like we SEE her get completely blitzed and one-shot by Chainsaw Man in the very arc she says this in so I have no idea why you're even entertaining this idea.
 
The answer is obviously that she can't. Devils have more to them than stats. Ergo, stating that Pochita "fought the four Horsemen" says nothing about what Makima was doing in that fight. Like we SEE her get completely blitzed and one-shot by Chainsaw Man in the very arc she says this in so I have no idea why you're even entertaining this idea.
Held back, wanted to see how cool csm is, likes being hurt by csm, can't die, she's a fan of csm. She held back.
 
imagine the control devil itself just be like "y'all are useless I'm doing it myself" and Makima'd all over the place with her left hook and right hook.
Hell devil twist his ball
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