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Have you watched the anime ? Mikey kicking Hanma and Taiju are both examples of sonic booms, I mean the audio alone should prove it
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Calc Stacking in Tokyo Revengers
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Thanks for proving the calc stacking in these calcs
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What? No, just because they are noises doesn't mean they are sonic booms, the only evidence you can bring is a simple noise, which is not a good basis for a sonic boom. By this logic any low tier is supersonic. A sonic boom should generate shock waves, which does not happen
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Strong sound = Sonic boom, wow
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Yes, many other things have been percieved as sonic booms, stop acting like there needs to be a character saying "OMG THAT WAS A SONIC BOOM" for it to be classed as a sonic boom
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Bruh, did you also think about the fact in the manga there are no sonic boom? So is more valid to assume they are sound effect of the impact of the kick, and no a dull sound isn't a sonic boom
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Have you ever thought that the noise you hear is the sound of the impact of the kick? To say that it is a sonic boom for a single auditory effect is a crazy assumption. In all scenes the sound effect is heard when the kick has hit the target, it seems more logical to me that the noise is from the impact rather than the speed
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The calculation has errors. It considers the distance of the kick as being straight but the kick comes from the side and the result would always be inconsistent because takemichi would have enough speed to blitz Mikey but struggles to dodge kicks.
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No, why do you think that can be used?
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I'm just saying they are more reasonable if we want to avoid calc stacking than just put random a subsonic speed
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Its so dumb, even Mid tiers have subsonic and supersonic feats smh
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which unfortunately can't be used
Fikriskps
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I dont think its have to be superhuman for MIKEY DI , TERANO DI
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Izana Saved kakuchou can still be used
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what I meant is that we can't use those feats to make calcs, for me Izana saves kakucho is fine for now, just putting subsonic everywhere is wrong that's waht i meant
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To use those numbers in calculations would be calc stacking. The thread was opened mainly for this reason. Many supersonic feats are all disprovable, which I think has been demonstrated in this thread
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Well I believe it's a good stats amp, but I don't mind using a lower one for them too
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Mikey DI isnt Superhuman speed
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Mikey DI is supersonic + and likely farrrrrrrrrrrr higher, why would you go anything below subsonic
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Can you prove the umbrella was thrown at FTE speed? No.
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What ? You replied to something that has no corelation with what you just said
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No like wtf is this? Using a baseline speed for every single punch with no real reason just because they display superhuman speed feats?
Next is what? Using SoL as a base speed for everytime a Jojo character dodges something?
Yeah no, this is still using very weird assumptions.
Next is what? Using SoL as a base speed for everytime a Jojo character dodges something?
Yeah no, this is still using very weird assumptions.
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Regarding the calculations, no rebuttal was made. The accusations about the calculations have not been refuted so far. 2 people from the calculations group agree with the accusations, there are easily preconditions to bring these calculations down. Also with regard to the umbrella feat I have already stated why it is invalid, but no one has made a rebunk as yet.
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He can dodge or block them by moving instantly after seeing the vision. He doesn't need to see the kicks.
No, even after Mikey started becoming faster Takemichi could still deal with his attacks.
You do see jabs.
Mikey's kicks aren't exactly close.
What does this even mean?
Fair, but it was still fast enough that South couldn't properly see it. Senju's arm is also blurry at least to us, and since blurry movement consistently means the character is moving extremely quickly it also supports it. In the original post you tried to invalidate blurry movement by saying that you can do it as well, but flapping your hands in front of yourself for example is very different. Your kicks for example aren't blurry.
South turned towards Senju before the umbrella was thrown. We see him turn towards her in the previous panel, and since Senju's arm is still blurry that means she just threw it right at that moment.
No, only through ways that don't qualify.
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I have also stopped evaluating TokRev calcs for the same reasons as Therefir. Please do not contact me again for this.
Also I have received evidence that Vapourrr has gone on a vendetta against me because I do not find the calcs preferable in the current circumstances. Honestly however, I could not care a single morsel about this given I have gone on a permanent withdrawal from the verse as is.
Also I have received evidence that Vapourrr has gone on a vendetta against me because I do not find the calcs preferable in the current circumstances. Honestly however, I could not care a single morsel about this given I have gone on a permanent withdrawal from the verse as is.
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I think this shows the inconsistency and meaninglessness of the calculations
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No, a human can do it without any problem. Just go and see real match, it is possible to do it at high guard, let alone at low guard. The umbrella feat makes no sense. Literally if South does not see a subsonic umbrella well it has no reason to be supersonic
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What are you talking about ? This makes no sense
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Are you saying a human could deflect an umbrella less then 1 cm away from their face or that a human can move FTE ?, either way if your being serious I see no point in continuing to argue with you
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No human movement will seem blurry from around 10 meters away, which is the distance between Senju and the point of view.
Subsonic likely isn't the actual speed of the umbrella, it's just the highest that can be used in the calculation.
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I'm talking about Mikey's feats at the beginning of the opera. Like the one on Osanai. More evidence has been given that that umbrella is not FTE
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I literally wrote that by human feats I mean Mikey's on Osanai
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Osanai is properly trained though, he's a boxer...
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Sorry for bothering you and thanks for the reply
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What does that feat have to do with this?
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It has been said that feats like that are subsonic, I simply said that they are feats within human endeavours
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No human has ever kicked another human like that so fast that the other human didn't even have time to move their eye
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@LephyrTheRevanchist
Sorry for tagging you, it looks like KLOL and Therefir are unhappy about the calculations (correct me if I missunderstood their comments), how do you suggest to continue now? Should we wait for the third one you tagged to reply?
Sorry for tagging you, it looks like KLOL and Therefir are unhappy about the calculations (correct me if I missunderstood their comments), how do you suggest to continue now? Should we wait for the third one you tagged to reply?
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What are you talking about ? Therefir and KLOL have said nothing other then they don't want to be involved with TR, therefir said he doesn't like the assumptions, doesn't mean he disagrees with EVERY SINGLE calc
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