it could become a rather important part within a versus match though which would end up becoming this thread lol.
Ignore me, then. I thought it was.
This isn't what I'm arguing.
This argument fails for another reason. This statement isn't specifically in reference to his RC or aura, just his general Spiritual Pressure. This statement refers to the fact the seals can affect his range with his attacks as well. This statement is contextualized later to prove my point. Aizen fires a non RC Reiatsu attack at the Reiokyu but it doesn't reach due to the seals. Reiatsu Crush =\= Reiatsu. This statement refers to his Reiatsu broadly, not specifically Reiatsu crush, which disproves this argument. Aizen ties his EE to his Reiatsu, not his RC. This isn't proof Aizen's EE shares a weakness with his physical Reiatsu crush, as Reiatsu isn't necessarily just Reiatsu Crush. Hell, this is even proven in this scene. In this scene, Aizen solidifies his Reiatsu into a beam, if his Reiatsu is always just RC, then everyone there would have been affected (It had the range, and they were right there, the Reiatsu had already crossed hundreds of meters).
Agree wholeheartedly, this inherently proves that Aizen’s statement within Muken cannot be referring to a connection between his RC aura and his EE aura, but rather is simply referring to the range of his reiatsu in general.
I must admit this is the most contentious thread I've seen in a while over so small a matter, lol.Wait until everyone realizes that this much contentious and even debating only supports a possibly rating
Real.
Where did you get that weakness from lol
Chill, no one is taking it like that, we are just explaining that the weakness is derived from arguing that its a part of RC, because RC has that weakness.
And i'm saying if it being connected to RC is why people think it has that weakness, why can't you just argue that it's it's own ability that happens to have it's own weaknesses? I just personally think that'd be better to argue if it being a part of RC isn't provable.
Sure.
Because the “it’s got its own weakness” has been debunked/conceded upon. That’s why the opposition shifted argumentation towards it being instrinsically linked to RC.
Sure in a vacuum, power often can refer to raw strength. However, as shown in my prior post, the context for that statement is Aizen talking about his Existence Erasure. He uses his EE to erase someone and then states that they cannot withstand that power, that power being his EE. When I mentioned equal interp, it was in the sense of worst case scenario, equal interp renders both arguments invalid, but the context points to power referring to an ability. So, does you saying "a possibly rating isn't irresponsible" indicate support of a possibly rating?
Characters can sense abilities and non AP related powers in Bleach (we see Ichigo sense Shunsui's Bankai which is pure hax), since every power in Bleach (AP attacks to hax) are all fueled by your spirit energy. Furthermore, humans being unable to sense Aizen does in no way prove that Aizen's EE shares the same weakness as his RC. Aizen simply states that because normal humans have no spiritual senses, they cannot sense him. All Aizen is inherently saying is this "Humans possess no spiritual senses, as a consequence of that, they cannot sense me. However, they cannot withstand my EE regardless". The first part is just Aizen informing us that regular humans don't possess the means to spiritual perceive him, and the second part is Aizen saying that regardless of that fact, they still cannot withstand his power. Aizen's power that they cannot withstand is his EE, as that is objectively what we are shown and told. Aizen isn't inherently saying his EE is AP based whatsoever, the but in the second sentence just means "even though they cannot sense me". Put that together and you get this "Even though they cannot sense me, they are not immune to my power (EE aura)".
Every hax in Bleach is based on reiatsu, this does not prove it's AP based. Also, Arcker goes into detail here so I won't bother repeating it:
The Kenpachi statement does not support your argument at all. First, we objectively see Aizen is relative to Ichigo (burns Ichigo's arm in Deicide) and is relative to Yhwach (can cut through Yhwach black energy), so Ichigo and Yhwach are relative to Aizen. Second, Kenpachi's statement is referring to large gaps in power and is referring to non-hax related attacks (contextualized with a physical sword swing).
I never said it refers to strength i said its holistic as for the possibly rating yes.
So spirit energy is the fuel source, and spiritual pressure is the act of burning that fuel source. Like when you use an ability or make an attack that spirit energy is exerted as spiritual pressure.
The idea that he needs to reference EE as a power at another point in the series for my interpretation to hold is illogical. Aizen doesn’t need to have talked about EE in the past or future. He refers to his EE as a power in Deicide, as that mini arc is the only time he directly addresses his EE (he alludes to it in the TYBW). All that matters is that hax is referred to as powers in Bleach, that’s all I need for my point to hold, as you cannot objectively prove that he referred to his EE as AP.
I assume you mean Possible Resistance to EE? The EE itself is not just a 'Possible'.
Yes, forgot to type Resistance
Damage, I disconnected from this thread, but this is literally my point from the start. But ofc haters will go against me and say I am unreasonable.
Arcker and I already refuted Damage's post afterwards.
He did not reply afterward. My point still remains, whatever he mentioned EE in the series, he always referred it to humans. But let's wait for damage to reply.
You responded to the post, but that doesn't necessarily make the post refuted.
He has replied afterward... and your point is provably false, Aizen references his EE in context of Shunsui and Shinigami, as denoted in Arcker and I's further posts...
Unfortunately, unless we have moved to conclusions, failure to respond to my refutation is just going to be perceived as a concession. But if you're ready to conclude this thread, it's at 4 votes for giving at least possible resistances vs 3 against, so we can conclude and make the changes. Or continue the debate, either is fine by me.
