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Yeah lol especially when you have this as well, a couple blocks to a shit ton of districts.
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Bleach Top Tiers Downgrade
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The ton of districts is still a far cry from over a thousand kilometers across.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Whatever the end result is, there needs to be a thread discussing whether or not we accept it before we apply it to profiles.
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You mean the thread discussed already that pretty much covered every point? but somehow ended up with a butchered size with no source for months with a non-existant calc? I for one have no interest arguing with people for multiple threads just like Aizen regen, palace distance, or whatever else every couple months. Just give it a break dude and let people move on from this Seireitei nonsense, it's extremly tiring.
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I'm pasting my comment I made to Matthew in a message wall what a calc using only statements for Seireitei's size by Yoruichi and Gremmy's statement that the meteor would destroy it would yield:
Ant said to discuss this issue somewhere else, so I'm bringing up your last comment on the Gremmy meteor here.
Statements for Seireitei's size are that it takes 40 days to walk around it according to Yoruichi.
Assuming Yoruichi walks the speed of a normal human for that time and that normal human walking speed is 5km/h:
That would give Seireitei a circumference of 4800km. A diameter of 1527.89 km and a radius of 763.945 kilometers.
From here I will use a formula provided to me by a calc member when I was doing calcs for Fairy Tail for an attack that would destroy a country (ground explosion formula):
W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2
W is yield in tons of tnt, R is radius in meters, and P is pressure of the shockwave in bars, the standard overpressure is 20 psi or 1.37895 bars.
Thus plugging in the numbers gives you:
763945^3*((27136*1.37895 + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2
Which yields 3.5832061e+13 or 35.8 Teratons, 6-B.
That'd be 17.9 Teratons, 6-B for Gremmy with no clones. 35.8 Teratons, 6-B for Gremmy with 1 clone. 250.6 Teratons, High 6-B for Gremmy with 7 clones. 35.8 Teratons, 6-B for all the current High 6-A as well (for now at least until we apply some 5x Bankai multipliers to those affected). So High 6-A to 6-B and High 6-B.
Ant said to discuss this issue somewhere else, so I'm bringing up your last comment on the Gremmy meteor here.
Statements for Seireitei's size are that it takes 40 days to walk around it according to Yoruichi.
Assuming Yoruichi walks the speed of a normal human for that time and that normal human walking speed is 5km/h:
That would give Seireitei a circumference of 4800km. A diameter of 1527.89 km and a radius of 763.945 kilometers.
From here I will use a formula provided to me by a calc member when I was doing calcs for Fairy Tail for an attack that would destroy a country (ground explosion formula):
W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2
W is yield in tons of tnt, R is radius in meters, and P is pressure of the shockwave in bars, the standard overpressure is 20 psi or 1.37895 bars.
Thus plugging in the numbers gives you:
763945^3*((27136*1.37895 + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2
Which yields 3.5832061e+13 or 35.8 Teratons, 6-B.
That'd be 17.9 Teratons, 6-B for Gremmy with no clones. 35.8 Teratons, 6-B for Gremmy with 1 clone. 250.6 Teratons, High 6-B for Gremmy with 7 clones. 35.8 Teratons, 6-B for all the current High 6-A as well (for now at least until we apply some 5x Bankai multipliers to those affected). So High 6-A to 6-B and High 6-B.
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I think resting should be accounted for due to Orihime at the start of the series.
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One step at a time.Peter1129 said:
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Yeah but we really need to figure out which multipliers are usable. I already made a doc with the scaling for almost every character in Bleach written down. All I need now is to figure out which multipliers are usable so I can give them a tier. After that we can make a thread and post the doc and see if there are any disagreements on the scaling and tiering.
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Pretty sure Anyone but Ichigo and Aizen would down scale much, especially since the Yhwach's he fought or even had a brief match with had already absorbed most Quincies, including Gremmy
They would still scale from Yhwach's Palace feat
They would still scale from Yhwach's Palace feat
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Where was the X5 Multiplier accepted?IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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What does this have to do with stamina?AppleLord said:
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Where was the X5 Multiplier accepted?
Nowhere, we're waiting for it.
@Peter1129 the calc uses 7 only, not 8, so it'd still be correct.
Nowhere, we're waiting for it.
@Peter1129 the calc uses 7 only, not 8, so it'd still be correct.
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@Damage
Also another thing that points to a large Seireitei is the fact that Azashiro was capable of casting 100s of Itto Kaso hado within Seireitei if I remember correctly. I'm sure you're aware of how much range that kido has when Yama used it. Which Zaraki no-sold btw...
Also another thing that points to a large Seireitei is the fact that Azashiro was capable of casting 100s of Itto Kaso hado within Seireitei if I remember correctly. I'm sure you're aware of how much range that kido has when Yama used it. Which Zaraki no-sold btw...
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oh really? do you have the quote?Peter1129 said:
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Resting should probably be accounted for like Sigurd said
It's best to assume they walk for at least 18 hours a day, with 8 hours for sleep
that'd make the circumference 3600 kilometers
The diameter 1146.49681529 km and radius 573.248407645 km
It's best to assume they walk for at least 18 hours a day, with 8 hours for sleep
that'd make the circumference 3600 kilometers
The diameter 1146.49681529 km and radius 573.248407645 km
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That's fine by me, then we can finally end this seiretei discussion forever hopefully.
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i saw something about ichigo running for 5 days are we able to use that?
That was just him talking about his stamina iirc when he was running on the treadmill.
That was just him talking about his stamina iirc when he was running on the treadmill.
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Days in Seiretei are 26hs long.
I know this doesn't help, but I couldn't help it.
I know this doesn't help, but I couldn't help it.
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Zezu that was months ago lol, the JET book. It was mostly about how Kubo likes big breasted women and some information about burn the witch which is a couple years after yhwach's defeat.
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okay, you use the average human speed to determine the size of sei rei tei
but why the f**k do you use orihime's stamina as an excuse to downgrade the size? if you throw orihime's stats into that calc, it makes no sense,cause she would cross those 3.6 thousand km in no time
you should ignore orihime's stats altogether
otherwise it sounds funny,that character with hypersonic movement needs 40 days of walking to cross 3.600 km
but why the f**k do you use orihime's stamina as an excuse to downgrade the size? if you throw orihime's stats into that calc, it makes no sense,cause she would cross those 3.6 thousand km in no time
you should ignore orihime's stats altogether
otherwise it sounds funny,that character with hypersonic movement needs 40 days of walking to cross 3.600 km
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Is this bigger or smaller than the size we already use?TataHakai said:
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Bigger.
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Ichigo fought Urahara for 5 days and night straight and Uryu trained with the Sanrei Glove for 7 days and nights straight. The statement about Ichigo running on the treadmill was a week straight.
Chad and Orihime had supposedly trained a few days with Yoruichi before they left to Soul Society. Really vague.
Chad and Orihime had supposedly trained a few days with Yoruichi before they left to Soul Society. Really vague.
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They have Hypersonic movement with shunpo, and using walking speed is fine since it doesn't vary. The other statement had the other people walking and resting as well during their 3 days journey.
Besides Orihime doesn't have any actual stamina feats in this arc as far as i'm aware (well any solid ones). Nor can she travel at hypersonic speeds. There is also the fact people need to sleep and stuff.
Besides Orihime doesn't have any actual stamina feats in this arc as far as i'm aware (well any solid ones). Nor can she travel at hypersonic speeds. There is also the fact people need to sleep and stuff.
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So is Tata's proposition the new accepted size?
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Using the new Seireitei radius by Tata and the same formula used for Fairy Tail to determine the surface destruction of one of it's countries [W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2]:TataHakai said:
I get 1.5139589e+13 tons of tnt, or 15.1 teratons, 6-B.
This is with 1 clone, so Gremmy alone is 7.55 teratons, barely 6-B. With 6 clones he's 52.85 teratons, still 6-B.
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Do clones scale linearly like that?
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His do since 2 doubled his power then he created more.
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When Gremmy's strongest attack only requires 1 clone, but opening a portal to space takes 5.
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