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That doesn't make me useless lol its knowing when to say something or keep my mouth shutDon’t call others useless if you have nothing to add.
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That doesn't make me useless lol its knowing when to say something or keep my mouth shutDon’t call others useless if you have nothing to add.
The problem is that the diagram Rukia talks about isn't exactly literal as we know that the Living World and Soul Society aren't all of the realms which make up the universe.The scans provided stated the World of the Living is a dimension and another says Soul Society is a universe that if tilt will collide and spilt into the World of the Living. Why wouldn’t it be? Half of infinity is still infinity. Both humans and shinigami know the word “Universe” in their respective cosmologies.
@Damage3245 @Matthew_SchroederFrom what I've seen there's been no counters to this:
- Isshin and SAFWY confirm the Garganta is its own spacetime (I think we all agree on this)
- Aura says the Garganta extends to infinity, which according to VSBW "described has having infinite sizes or other synonyms, that should strongly indicate them being universes." Aura's statement is in line with the Garganta being acceptably universal in size.
- A universal sized spacetime is Low 2-C
This is actually valid. I never got the sense that the Garganta is actually physical to begin with and quantifiable as a space.I don't think this actually matters in determining the size of the Garganta.
They don't exist as physical "things" within the Garganta, it seems. You can't see any signs of the other dimensions from within the Garganta, and it's not like we could say "The Garganta is at least twice as wide as one of these dimensions since they both fit within it" because that's not how pocket dimensions work as far as I can tell.
Again, to draw an example from another series, it's like trying to say that a house is millions of miles wide because the TARDIS can materialize inside there. That's not the case. The TARDIS is just bigger on the inside.
Legit wasnt an insult. It was being truthful lol stop trying to come to his rescue and actually be let him know the same thing since he ws literally trying to start stuffIf you have nothing to add but insults then don't comment
No the Garganta is a void of Reishi, so it is quantifiable.This is actually valid. I never got the sense that the Garganta is actually physical to begin with and quantifiable as a space.
Not saying that or denying that like i said I am neutral I am not Opposing thisi mean no one really scales to the god tiers besides themselves as the only people they have fought and resisted are the other god tiers
Because they're not the size of the old universe, the old universe already existed and then the Soul King created a bunch of stuff inside the old universe to stabilize life and death.If Living world and soul society is same size as the old universe how the garguanta that is the void of reishi that encompass them be like that, since garguanta was created with them from the old universe and contain reishi of the old universe, he shouldn't be able to be bigger than the old universe no?
I'm not really much invested in bleach cosmology so can be wrong.
The diagram Rukia uses is on the databook, but is not relevant. The words on the panel are relevant.The problem is that the diagram Rukia talks about isn't exactly literal as we know that the Living World and Soul Society aren't all of the realms which make up the universe.
Can I get any response on this from Staff please.From what I've seen there's been no counters to this:
- Isshin and SAFWY confirm the Garganta is its own spacetime (I think we all agree on this)
- Aura says the Garganta extends to infinity, which according to VSBW "described has having infinite sizes or other synonyms, that should strongly indicate them being universes." Aura's statement is in line with the Garganta being acceptably universal in size.
- A universal sized spacetime is Low 2-C
He didn’t create a bunch of stuff inside the old universe. It literally doesn’t even exist anymore?Because they're not the size of the old universe, the old universe already existed and then the Soul King created a bunch of stuff inside the old universe to stabilize life and death.
And like Damage says the Garganta isn't physical so people inside these realms can perfectly be aware of the wider universe outsie them.
Err, don't lump me in with Matthew on that point. My point is different to what he was saying.As for this 2nd bit this is just baseless head canon you and Damage are agreeing on based off literally nothing to be blunt. So stop pushing this.
Cool, I can break down my translation and reasoning for it being non-hyperbolic.If Aura's statement is truly accurate and non-hyperbolic, then the Garganata extending into "infinity" does seem like it would fall under this requirement for "Universe-sized pocket realms":
- If the size of the realms described has having infinite sizes or other synonyms, that should strongly indicate them being universes.
that is irrelevant to the other statement about it expanding.Unmasked already addresses that Garganta isnt a genuine void but one of reishi
Incidentally, which book is it from? Has Viz reached that point?Cool, I can break down my translation and reasoning for it being non-hyperbolic.
Reishi, Souls, and Hollows existed before matter and the living world in the Bleachverse. The it isn’t “real” discussion isn’t on the table at this point.Unmasked already addresses that Garganta isnt a genuine void but one of reishi
Well I had my reason but yes thats my fault and I shouldn't not say anything, I apologize for that remark@BlackeJan, I wasn't trying to start anything but ok . You're the one who called me useless and a cheerleader lmao.
What question?Since people disagree with matthew can someone answer my question with their answer?
Kishi matter in the living world have souls of Reishi inside of it.It would be impossible as well for Kishi to exist within a Reishi space which is what Garganta is. So it’s quite literally and utterly impossible for the real world to exist within the Garganta without it being its own separate dimension.
It’s dimensional travel, why does this even matter?Is Garganta is so big then why Ichigo, Chad, Uryu, and other shinigami captains were crossing through the garganta to travel through and from hueco mundo. The pro-bleach side stand by this.
Is space is so big then why astronauts were crossing through the space to travel through and from earth to the moon.Is Garganta is so big then why Ichigo, Chad, Uryu, and other shinigami captains were crossing through the garganta to travel through and from hueco mundo. The pro-bleach side stand by this.
I know this already since everything has a soul. But it doesn’t change my point. Pure matter cannot exist in a world of spiritual matter.Kishi matter in the living world have souls of Reishi inside of it.
This oneIf Living world and soul society is same size as the old universe how the garguanta that is the void of reishi that encompass them be like that, since garguanta was created with them from the old universe and contain reishi of the old universe, he shouldn't be able to be bigger than the old universe no?
I'm not really much invested in bleach cosmology so can be wrong.
So what you are saying is that the Soul King created our entire universe? Our matter is called Kishi in Bleach, and the original old universe was made of Reishi. If the Soul King split the worlds into two of different matters that is a universal feat. Not a solar system level one.I know this already since everything has a soul. But it doesn’t change my point. Pure matter cannot exist in a world of spiritual matter.
This is what was agreed up on. Just look at the Soul King thread. IMade made another section about Reishi and Kishi.So what you are saying is that the Soul King created our entire universe? Our matter is called Kishi in Bleach, and the original old universe was made of Reishi. If the Soul King split the worlds into two of different matters that is a universal feat. Not a solar system level one.
And why does this matter lol? I was addressing the point "it isnt quantifiable".Reishi, Souls, and Hollows existed before matter and the living world in the Bleachverse. The it isn’t “real” discussion isn’t on the table at this point.