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7 pages and it isn't even 24 hours yet. Lmao
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Bleach God Tiers for real this time
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I am not arguing for this at all. I am saying it's not universal in size.
Side note, I appreciate this, and when you post it I will try to give a comprehensive reply to your arguments.
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This has to be a record.
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You don’t know what you’re saying. It doesn't exist anymore at all. How in the world are they contained within in. The Garganta isn’t outer space for the last time. The worlds are now contained and isolated inside of a void filled with unstable Reishi.
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Man never knew the word "universe" inherently means 3-A lol. Just to clarify....the word is interchangeable with macrocosm when context shows it's above 3-A.
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Uuuu no? The old universe was separated
The OG universe stoped existing when SK cut it on half and made one half only matter and the other spirit matter
The whole purpose of YH was to merge the 2 universes to make the OG universe again
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You’re most definently arguing it is via your logic , why even lie about it? You’re saying the real world isn’t the size of our world even though it’s the same in every way besides some spiritual things.
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I might be mixed up on something, but wouldn't those two things be 3-A, not Low 2-C?
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Err, i guess i will try to help you guys about the Universe because at this point it became a bit Circular
The World in the beginning was the Universe as we know it actually when the cycle of souls started and maked the universe in 'movement', After the SK and Menos things, the Five family with the help of The Almighty separated the Universe in 3, the Hueco Mundo, The SS and the Living World, The things is, the world of Living is made of Kishi, the real matter, but the Other worlds (SS and HM) are made of Reishi, and everything compose them), in conclusion, the matter of the Old Universe is not a part of the SS and HC because it's made of Reishi, Kishi is the real matter, the normal matter if you want, Reishi is the Spiritul matter, it's in theory not physical.
The Old Universe is actually the World of Living in the state when the Cycle of Souls work perfectly but it will became messed up and return to his states of Chaos if the Cycle of Souls is Screwed, this is also stated in the Novel, in summary, all the worlds will merge once again but it's not a matter of size, but more a matter of composition.
When Yhwach talk about the 'Destruction', it's not an actual destruction and everything return to nothing, but to remade the world in his states of Chaos, but it mean that the SS, the HC and The World of Living will be impacted because the Flow of Souls will be Screwed which, as i have said above will turn the whole Cosmology in a Chaos
The Size didn't really changed, SK just bring a Spiritual Universe (Made of Reishi), the Living world, Made of Kishi at the Size of The Old world (discutable for the SS and HC since both are made of resihi)
@Matthew_Schroeder Hope this will make the Cosmology as clear as possible, if you have other question, tell me, i will try to help as much as possible
The World in the beginning was the Universe as we know it actually when the cycle of souls started and maked the universe in 'movement', After the SK and Menos things, the Five family with the help of The Almighty separated the Universe in 3, the Hueco Mundo, The SS and the Living World, The things is, the world of Living is made of Kishi, the real matter, but the Other worlds (SS and HM) are made of Reishi, and everything compose them), in conclusion, the matter of the Old Universe is not a part of the SS and HC because it's made of Reishi, Kishi is the real matter, the normal matter if you want, Reishi is the Spiritul matter, it's in theory not physical.
The Old Universe is actually the World of Living in the state when the Cycle of Souls work perfectly but it will became messed up and return to his states of Chaos if the Cycle of Souls is Screwed, this is also stated in the Novel, in summary, all the worlds will merge once again but it's not a matter of size, but more a matter of composition.
When Yhwach talk about the 'Destruction', it's not an actual destruction and everything return to nothing, but to remade the world in his states of Chaos, but it mean that the SS, the HC and The World of Living will be impacted because the Flow of Souls will be Screwed which, as i have said above will turn the whole Cosmology in a Chaos
The Size didn't really changed, SK just bring a Spiritual Universe (Made of Reishi), the Living world, Made of Kishi at the Size of The Old world (discutable for the SS and HC since both are made of resihi)
@Matthew_Schroeder Hope this will make the Cosmology as clear as possible, if you have other question, tell me, i will try to help as much as possible
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Yeah now I gotta get involved.
The universe page flat out says this.
They almost have more justifications than the Standards for laser determination.
At this point it's supreme dodging to say anything else.
Give them the upgrade.
The universe page flat out says this.
It says at least 1 and they have 4. There's 6 and they have 4.
They almost have more justifications than the Standards for laser determination.
At this point it's supreme dodging to say anything else.
Give them the upgrade.
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This was a good summary for cosmology
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Sorry if I sound rude, the size did actually change since ReiO gave the realms their timelines and added Muken to SS which increases the matter it has compared to WotL
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Would you look at that...
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muken isnt accepted as infinite rn doesnt change much plus he can use his own power to bring it into reality as he should have the visionary
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The presence of Time don't change the 3D Size of things, it's a matter of Dimension, adding a Dimension to a 3D things don't impact his 3D size.
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Tiddy boba, how chads prove a point.This is a literal irl meme. If this doesn't prove that the World of the Living is based on our, irl world, then idk what would.
For context, this is the hands free bubble tea challenge accomplished.
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I don't think we do, I'm sorry.
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What I'm most confused about is how come WotL is considered by some to be the Universe instead of the Planet?
Cause I remember Urahara making a clear distinction between WotL, SS and Space Time.
Cause I remember Urahara making a clear distinction between WotL, SS and Space Time.
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... But the old universe / the original universe is the full irl universe. the Living World was created after.
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Sometimes it is difficult to swallow pride and accept something of that level.
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You guys need to stop with the "subtle" insults okay?
I will address The Causality's post soon as I think they were respectful and tried to actually give evidence in the form of scans.
I will address The Causality's post soon as I think they were respectful and tried to actually give evidence in the form of scans.
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Gonna play victim now? You’re intentionally being difficult. Anyone can see that which you have a habit of doing.
Also lol at us not giving evidence and scans when anyone can look through the pages and see we have. Meanwhile you don’t have a single scan under your belt?
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I understand all of this, but it doesn't mean that the World of the Living is the size of the full original universe just because it is only made of Kishi...
But their widely varying motives strangely led to the same goal in the end; to split the world. A world of order, a world of implementation, also a paradise of sand where Hollows from two sides would end up in.
Perhaps another form of the world would be born, but the essential thing was the clear separation the world of the 'living' from the world of the 'dead'.
In order to turn this division into a reality, what was required was the power of a man who transcended everything.
"Although the Shiba ancestor tried to talk the Tsunayashiro ancestor out of it, it is said that the Rei-o was tied up and sealed within the crystal. The rest of Soul Society's history was witnessed directly by myself."
A man who was later named the Rei-o.
Using his powers of the Almighty as the 'keystone', the five of them created the foundation of a new world. Soul Society, the Material World and Hueco Mundo. Life and death were separated. The Soul Cycle ushered in a new era.
This is what I mean. The Material World is stated to have been created after the existed of the universe, after they decided they needed to split the world to establish order.
True, the World of the Living was separated from the World of the Dead but the whole point of this creation story is that the original universe was neither. "All of creation was in a state of ambiguity." because neither Life nor Death existed.
I don't understand how you can conclude that the matter of the Old Universe all exist in the Physical World when the narrative states that it came after, that it was specifically created after.
I appreciate the clarifications but neither scan you post says that the Old Universe is the World of Living. The Novel states otherwise in the passage I quoted above. Meanwhile the two scans seem to agree with me, stating that the three worlds will collapse and the old universe without life or death would return when they do.
I know this. The lack of balance between Life and Death leads to Chaos which is why the giant Menos Grande emerged, who was destroyed by the Soul King when the world itself rejected the state.
I agree that the size of the original universe didn't change which is why I disagree with either the Living World or the Spiritual World are universal in size, the cosmology to me makes it clear they're not cause they were created as separations in the universe.
I appreciate your effort to make this post but I still disagree. Perhaps you can elucidate further in a reply.
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Normally the Staff has to agree
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majority with some staff members
as of now majority agrees with warren and damage leaning towards accepting it
opposition is matt
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There are more team members accepting and only one disagreeing.
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The presence of timeline introduces 4D spatial space. The size does increase to what I'm referring to. What ur talking about is 3D spatial space and I didn't say a timeline increases 3D size. I mentioned muken for that.
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I think Damage agrees with the Garganta; but he hasn’t said anything regarding size of SS and etc in a bit.
He disagrees with some scaling.
He disagrees with some scaling.
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The Old Universe is Kishi; you can clearly see this since Reishi wasn’t even introduced until the Menos was defeated.
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Could you clarify on how the spacetime upgrades it from 3-A to 2-C?
2-C seems to be:
And if the Garganta is an "infinitely-sized 3-D space" then it seems it is below 2-C.
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@Damage3245
What do you think of The World of Living stuff? Tempest posted some requirements and it meets at least 1 to qualify as a universe according to that page.
What do you think of The World of Living stuff? Tempest posted some requirements and it meets at least 1 to qualify as a universe according to that page.
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Neither Ichigo, Ginjo, or Hikone have “Stillness” or “Almighty” and they are potential Soul King candidates.
To stabilize the worlds requires = soul king level energy / power or commit a Konpaku massacre
To (create or) destroy the worlds requires = Almighty or commit a Hollow massacre
To stabilize the worlds requires = soul king level energy / power or commit a Konpaku massacre
To (create or) destroy the worlds requires = Almighty or commit a Hollow massacre
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I agree with him on this part because scaling of True Shikai didn't seem right to me either
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Yeah, but when you talked to the size, i thought you implied that the Universe was 3D spatially bigger than our.
@Matthew_Schroeder I appreciate your effort too, i'll try to answer you again, give me some time
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