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Keep crying, what nonsense are you talking about?
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Bill Cipher vs Yan Sen | 9-0–1 (Grace done, at this point idek)
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I didn't give you the link, it was in your profile.
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bruh ur the one crying coz yan sen lost
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You linked it from said profile and didn't bother to check where that link went. Spoiler alert, I quoted Cipher there word for word
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It is not my problem that the link is not up to date or does not work, it is the problem of the person who revised the system.
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As I said, there is such a limit for madness type 3 and so it cannot affect YanSen.
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After smashing the bill to pieces, he disappeared from there
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You're making this too easy
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+ you have to prove it to me
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- Limitations: Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this. Likewise, unless there is evidence to suggest differently, beings whose physical forms are similarly complex or extreme in nature are likely to be unaffected by exposure to such a being.
- Nothing about Yan Sen being conceptual tells me he's as similarly complex or extrene in nature as Bill's madness manipulation
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"Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this."
That's exactly who he is and that's exactly who the other gods are.
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So they all have madness 3 then?
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Nuh, not that I'm aware of, at least.
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...you can't even get that is a quote from Bill?
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I didn't mean that
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Then they aren't resisting Bill's Madness 3, they need some kind of statement of such-- the weakness you quote really only applies to Madness 3s that come from those whom are higher-dimensional and that's what causes the Madness 3
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Would Yan Sen being able to enter and fight in a space that "consciousness can't enter" help his case?
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The point here is that Bill will not be able to interact with YanSen or even perceive it.
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Bill does not need to be able to interact with or perceive someone to Madness 3 them, that's the ******' point of the power in the first place lmfao
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No, there it is said about beings that are complex and cannot be perceived.
For example, if you are not a conceptual being, or if you don't have any interaction with concepts, you cannot perceive or touch a being that is the concept itself.
Not interacting with something because of its existence also means that its existence is “deeper” and more “complex” than yours. And this is what was mentioned in the weakness of the ability.
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but yan sen can perceive bill
hes gonna be like, "uhhh ur face is gonna drive me insane"
thats incap
Georredannea15
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If I have a deeper and more complex existence than what you can perceive, then this ability cannot affect me. It's simple what's the page says dude.
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but yan sens physical form is not complex or extreme in nature
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How do you know it's more complex?
"Its AE1 tho!"
That means jack and shit for resisting Madness 3. It's like saying Yan Sen could perceive a Bloodborne Great One and not turn into a vegetable.
My higher-D example was for individuals such as Cthulhu Mythos ultimate gods who get their Madness 3 from being so far above you.
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He does have X numbers of universes inside his body, don't know if that fits "complex" or "extreme" tho.
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how does having universes in your body gonna stop you from getting madness haxed
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I don't know, but isn't the whole point of the current debate about whether Yan Sen's existence is "complex enough" so that Bill's madness hax can't work? I'm just proposing things that may or may not help his case.
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Yeah this was what I thought on the matter, the verse doesn't treat this as Madness 3 qualification, while universes are very complex... Bill's verse deals with the shit and he's still got Madness 3
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" His "true form" beneath his exoskeleton could drive Fiddleford to insanity"
Do you really believe this is an effective madness type 3?
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i mean you're not explaining why it wont work on yan sen" His "true form" beneath his exoskeleton could drive Fiddleford to insanity"
Do you really believe this is an effective madness type 3?
yan sen is gonna turn mad from perceiving bill
bill doesn't have to interact with his AE here
Georredannea15
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This AE type 1 is conceptual. Why should a character who cannot perceive conceptual being or does not even know what they are affect someone who is the concept itself? The page makes this clear. I don't think we need to go back and forth any further because this shit is so much clear
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But doesn't he need to go into his true form? It means it isn't instantly/passive madness manip no?
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Man just... Read the madness page. The page explain it why he's not affected
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we are using physical form bill
so yeah perceiving him is gonna drive yan sen mad
bill cant perceive yan sen but yan sen can perceive bill
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I'm unsure of it. The scan says that the guy peeked into Bill's dimension, seeing him remove his exoskeleton, and that made him crazy.
The page also acknowledges this :
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"all he saw was me removing my exoskeleton to feed"
His can only impress a simple person. Yan Sen has seen so many massacres and wars that it would take a really weak mind to be affected by it.
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wait wtf ur right it looks like bills madness hax isn't passive
but yan sen is haxless in this key
but yan sen is haxless in this key
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