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we talked about it and we answered it
I don't understand what you're saying here.
all abilities in the profile are 12-dimensional.
Since it's sba, he'll strike first.
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Bill Cipher vs Yan Sen | 9-0–1 (Grace done, at this point idek)
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What talk? What answer?
There's no evidence of what concept do Yan Sen holds, its just blatantly "concept"... its very broad, and can't be applicable to a battle.
You're saying all of Yan Sen abilities being conceptual just because he's AE1, that's not how it works.
Not for his AE1, its connected and part of his body which is 5-D.
How are you not getting this?
"In-Character"
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we finished discussing this a long time ago... YanSen is a conceptual god, not just ae1 but both conceptual 1 and ae1
(and easily destroyed a god who was conceptual 1)
The 5-dimensional thing is his body
We have already discussed all these issues for 13 pages and I don't intend to discuss any more because we are talking about the same issues. I am not going to answer you any more.
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Do you think Bill can transmutate his body and have a wincon then? Just curious
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He can't do that because he can't perceive YanSen. It needs conceptual 1 interaction to do this
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So type 1 concepts are even more powerful than higher dimensional hax? Wow
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Don't know jack about Bill, and only know like 80 chapters of Yan sen.
That being said, are they both equal in terms of dimensionality (Haxes and physical), or is one of them higher than the other? (Ie >12D)
If they are both equal, I'm not really seeing anything on Bill's profile that affects AE1?
That being said, are they both equal in terms of dimensionality (Haxes and physical), or is one of them higher than the other? (Ie >12D)
If they are both equal, I'm not really seeing anything on Bill's profile that affects AE1?
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1. It still doesn't justify his concept property, and defeating a another AE1 Being is just NPI.
And it still doesn't justify which concept did he holds in, that's why i'm saying "can't be applicable in battle" because we DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS CONCEPT, yet.
2. "The 5-dimensional thing his body" so his AE1 is not his body? What?
His AE1 can't be higher than he is now in HDE Aspects
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His AE1 caps to his HDE which is 5-D.
Bill nukes with Energy Projection which is 12D smurf
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Dude, I've discussed all this many times and I'm not going to discuss it anymore. All you're doing is going back to old topics and trying to piss me off.
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Isnt his true form how fiddleford went insane
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His... Body is considered conceptual though, no? And he has durability (not existence) of 12D, no?
If so, Bill can only affect Yan sen if he destroys the latter's plane of existence (Ie destroy the plane where Yan sen is residing in), since being higher D doesn't somehow mean you can interact with concepts.
Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how Bill can even affect Yan sen?
Also, what are Yan sen's wincons in this match?
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You're misleading people.
Its listed on AE Page that:
And with his AE1 is 5-D, Bill can just nuke it entirely in 12-D.
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What discussed, dude?! The CRT you just made before?
Even the people in there asks about what concept did Yan Sen holds, and you didn't answer any of that
You're funny
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You don't know what Conceptual 1 is.
I didn't talk about it in that crt, you probably don't know anything and here you are talking blindly. Stop trying to make me angry.
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It is conceptually 5-D.
Physically, yeah.
No, being a Higher D or having Higher Range (In smurfs) means you can interact with it as it is infinitsimal.
I don't even see how Yan Sen can interact with Bill's Nonexistence Forn aswell.
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How is this relevant??????
He's still bound to his dimension space, not that he's BDE or anything (Even so, it doesn't help him anything)
Try to be specific then.
I have not see you once address anything related to his holds of conceptual manipulation.
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Isn’t destroying everything a win-con for Bill?
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So is Yan Sen a concept for the cosmology bigger than 12D?
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The concept does not depend on cosmology, so destroying cosmology would not harm the concept. (needs conceptual 1 interaction)
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Limitations: Abstract entities recurrently strictly embody a concept, thought, or idea up to a certain level of reality. For example, Eternity only embodies time on a local, universal scale. If the universe is destroyed, so is he.
this only applies to ae1. cm1 is not included.
and YanSen has nothing to do with it.
this only applies to ae1. cm1 is not included.
and YanSen has nothing to do with it.
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What? Regardless of what type of concept he is, he would still be destroyed if the structure he is concept is, he will die.
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I don't think you know how Concept 1 works.
Destroying a cosmology does not destroy concept 1
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Thats destroying the reality the Concept governs, it's still connected to the cosmology and if its gone no more concept
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it doesn't destroy the concept if they are type 1 as they are completely independent from the reality they govern at that point at that point
you specifically need NPI to that degree or CM type 1 to harm them at that point
it would require someone to completely erase the dimensional plane to up to which these concept needs to function or exert their concept to render them nullified or powerless
you specifically need NPI to that degree or CM type 1 to harm them at that point
it would require someone to completely erase the dimensional plane to up to which these concept needs to function or exert their concept to render them nullified or powerless
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this was rejected but two characters are getting too many revisions and their profiles are not complete, so we have said that this issue is invalid but no one listens to us.
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which was disagreed by 2 staffs so far for CM type 1 for meaning
while ultima questioning the notion of the "eating the concept of life" in the same statement
I hate that guy
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Georredannea15
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That's it, you are on the right way man
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Are the universes inside Yan Sen 12D? Cause his large size/HDE are only listed as 5D based on the universes, and the 12D stuff is being comparable to someone who has 12D creation
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The universes inside Yan Sen, for now, are replicas of the Human Universe, which is currently 5D.
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Conceptual Type 1 isn't BDE
They're independent sure, but they still have Reality Aspect and is not "lack" as they also govern the realities.
Y'all be really stretching NLF on AE1 CM1, CM1 5-D vs Nuke Bomb (Boundless) = CM1 Win
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they are independent off not lack off
Conceptual Type 1 isn't BDE
They're independent sure, but they still have Reality Aspect and is not "lack" as they also govern the realities.
Y'all be really stretching NLF on AE1 CM1, CM1 5-D vs Nuke Bomb (Boundless) = CM1 Win
so regardless of the state of reality it they will be independent of it unlike type 2 which disappears and dies if every object they govern disappears.
I'm not stretching it since he only mentioned reality and not the dimensional plane
context wise you simply misunderstood what I'm talking about in response to brooger asking about destroying the reality
Reality =/= plane of existence in a dimension
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