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So, we all kinda know that this wasn't finished, and the old thread was long, we weren't getting notifications anymore, not everything was summarized in the OP because new information showed up, and it shouldn't get a highlight, unlike this one. I'll summarize what went on in that old thread, minus the things that weren't accepted, and some things that I thought of since. If it's a new item, it'll be marked with an asterisk.
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- High 8-C (low end) and HHS (reeeeally high end). Cleffa can react to meteors and survive the crash of one, which I calculated in the first thread to be Large Building level (using a weight of 40 kg)
- AP would be scaled to Rhyhorn being capable of shattering skyscrapers, and Aiden calculated violently fragmenting them to be Low 7-C.
- Speed would be MHS+ (that of lightning). There's enough proof for Pokémon electricity being actual lightning, and dodging attacks from the likes of Magnemite, Pikachu, Electrike, and Elekid, not to mention the incredibly fodder tier electric move Thundershock, should qualify them there.
- Low 7-B and Sub-Relativistic. Seismic Toss got accepted for the users on this level. Also, note how I said adolescent forms instead of 2nd Stage Pokémon. That's because I believed it wasn't smart of me to separate any of the Fully Evolved Pokémon (except for those like Raticate and Bibarel. Those go on the above levels, because they're...not strong). There's no difference between, for example, a Marowak and a Vileplume in potential power.
- Those who only have two forms would just skip the gap. The only ones we'd have to pick and choose for are those who don't evolve at all, which either go here or what's following.*
- AP? Just...somewhere in tier 6. I don't know where yet. There's so much to do here, that I don't know how to just summarize it in a single paragraph.
- Previously Calc'd Things include:
- The Deliberd manga freezing feat
- The false Kyogre destroying feat
- The Dragonair anime storm feat
- The Alakazam anime storm feat.
- Things that I had to calc/recalc include:
- It wasn't pleasant to do, and we need to decide on ends to use, or which ones are even acceptable.
- Still needs to be calced (That could be of this level, anyway) include...
- Tyranitar's mountain destruction was calced, but the power needed to do that only by the earthquakes by your walking wasn't.*
- Kingdra. How it yawning creates spiraling ocean currents and giant whirlpools by doing either that or by moving. (What are Gen II Pokémon drinking?!)*
- Dugtrio creating large earthquakes by digging from 60 miles underground.*
- The anime storm feats from a while back.
- A speed thing as well. We were discussing Solar Beam before, but when I was looking through Gigalith's feats, I wondered how the heck didn't we didn't give this thing SoL attack speed. Almost every other Pokédex entry discusses how it absorbs and fires solar rays, and it even goes as far to say that it can't fire when there's little sunlight, such as during rainy days or at night. Why this is important for other Pokémon comparable to Gigalith is because the thing only has one attack that would fit the bill for this. Power Gem. Its description says that it's a ray of light, and Gigalith's only special move, unless you count Mud-Slap (and let's be honest, no one does). Gigalith's not the only one to learn Power Gem, which is why this is important. It's also learned by a few other Pokémon who use things involving lightspeed, such as Ampharos, Starmie, and most notably, Necrozma. Plus, this gives more validation to Solar Beam. Heck, there's still Flash, and the presumably relativistic Ion Deluge.*
- Mega Lati@s should be High 6-A (no prefix) from surviving a combined attack from the Primals.
- Dark Matter...kinda has no reason to be a glass cannon, as it has the same feat as literally every other pocket dimension creator scaled to their pocket dimension, but they have equal durability to their AP. And it can The reason this matters is because a handful of Legendaries do hinder him quite notably. And all of the Legendaries that do have one thing in common: they're all exclusively the Pokémon in 5-B. Mewtwo, Mega Rayquaza, and Deoxys hold back its influence. Xerneas, the Tree of Life, is a pain in the butt for Dark Matter to put down, and that's a major plot point. Yveltal attacks Dark Matter, causing it to cry out in pain. But most notably is Mew, who led an attack on it in the past, causing it to become inert for a while, and defeats it in the present, as Mew is your partner who reincarnated itself in the future (voluntarily mind wiping itself) to stop Dark Matter when it emerges again.*
- While on that subject, Dark Matter can fire MFTL+ beams, which are reacted to (but not evaded) by Deoxys, Celebi, and Jirachi, which would scale to pretty much all Legends if deemed as legit.*
- Admittedly, the final two are...ambitious, to say he least. Only one that without a doubt needs to change for that is Dark Matter's durability. Everything else, not so much. I wouldn't even mind if we brought back the SMD key.
