Big Pokémon Revisions Part 2

[The_real_cal_howard]

Speed tho? We didn't work out the final forms

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Calc a few , if consistent ya can go ahead , nothing wrong there. .

 

[Kepekley23]

A bit random, but i think Dugtrio's earthquake feat is not legit. The Yellow Pokédex suggests that it's allegorical, and that it's not a real earthquake.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

I feel as though usin the old aproach of categorizing fully evolved Pokemon is necessary for the sake scaling trainers. I'm thinking Pokemon such as Marowak should have to keys one scaling to the "adolescent" to represent a freshly evolved/wild specimen and a seperate one scaling to the fully evolved to represent a sufficiently trained specimen.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

@SuperKamiNappa that's unneccesary, as trainers are scaled based on level and the most powerful pokemon they have at a certain point in game

 

[AidenBrooks999]

First stage pokemon should at least 8-A

From Rhyhorn's feats and the fact that with Low 7-B mid stages, the tier jump is so big that scaling look paintful

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ok

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Aiden This is nothing. You haven't seems true gaps in power per evolutionary form yet.

 

[Dark649]

I can handle the trainer scaling, i just need time to set it based on the new scaling.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Also, Horsea can learn Twister before becoming a Seadra, and Twister was rated at 8-A+ here.

About the trainers, I wanted to do it myself since I was who created the original scaling for them and always said that I wanted to update them

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Also, Horsea can learn Twister before becoming a Seadra, and Twister was rated at 8-A+ here.

Adding to this, Diglett and Numel can learn Earth Power before evolving, which is also 8-A+

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

So 8-A basic pokemon seems fairly consistent... LET'S DO IT!!!

 

[Dark649]

At the time Pikachu did the 8-A+ feat, it was considered as a first stage since Pichu was not created.

 

[SuperKamiNappa]

By card game logic Pikachu is still Basic, it goes Baby then Basic then Stage 1 then Stage 2.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

At the time Pikachu did the 8-A+ feat, it was considered as a first stage since Pichu was not created.

That was anime, so it has nothing to do with games

 

[Dark649]

That was anime, so it has nothing to do with games

You should disccuss it with Howard, which told me that the profiles are composited with all conuterpart like Darkrai, who is 2-C via Poképark and Mystery Dungeon.

 

[Dark649]

Also Darkrai and Cresselia and 7 Lucario should be at least 2-C since Darkrai fought Primal Dialga and the PMD Party that fought Primal Dialga, Dialga [Movie] and Palkia, which survived an attack, but ended up without memories.

 

[Kaltias]

This would really mess up the scaling, Dialga is 2-C via being >>> Darkrai

 

[Dark649]

Well a lot of attacks from a 2-C can damage an at least 2-C being, so it's better to leave things this way.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

That was anime, so it has nothing to do with games

You should disccuss it with Howard, which told me that the profiles are composited with all conuterpart like Darkrai, who is 2-C via Poképark and Mystery Dungeon.

For legendaries and mythical, I and Cal discussed that and agreed that regular pokemon won't scale from their anime counterpart

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

So just to make sure...

Low 7-B Pokemon like Xatu, Porygon, and Durant, right? Because the ones who are currently 8-A are getting the upgrade?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No, no, and yes respectively.

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Xatu should be Low 7-B.


Pokemon with only one evolution would be scaled case by case.

 

[CrackerVolley]

Ok then. What do you think Mawile should be?

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Mawile would be early game .

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Ok then. What do you think Mawile should be?

Evolutionless pokemon scale to mid-stage

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

From Rhyhorn Pokédex:
Strong, but not too bright, this POKéMON can shatter even a skyscraper with its charging TACKLES.

Its body is clad in a thick hide, and its tackles topple buildings. Unfortunately, it is not smart.

Strong, but not too bright, this Pokémon can shatter even a skyscraper with its charging Tackles.

So, Rhyhorn does not oneshot the skyscraper, not even violent fragmentation.

Is nobody going to respond to this?

EDIT:

Okay so "shattered", to me, strongly implies violent fragmentation. Even if Rhyhorn does use multiple hits, he has to be able to take out significant portions of a skyscraper in order for it to be a notable feat, as it would be ridiculous for me to make the claim that he's just headbutting the wall for six hours.

Even then, "buildings" is still plural in the second entry.

I personally think 8-C to High 8-C is fine for Rhyhorn here.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

I'm also in support of the 8-A revisions for Stage 1 Pokemon, barring the likes of Caterpie and Weedle. Giving them a High 8-C ranking is generous enough.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Don't knkw but high 8-C baby is debunked, the calculation cal did used an incorrect method , proper method gets half a ton , but I redid it and got 2 and 7 tons but applying it to cleffa is the problem .

 

[CrackerVolley]

Hey, small thing b4 we finish the revisons but what tier group should Eevee be in?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Eevee is a first stage, so 8-A+

 

[CrackerVolley]

Ok it'll do that. Also, the profile hasn't been linked to a picture in the verse page. Can somebody please do that?