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I thought thanatos was 2-C for destroying the shields that tanked a blow from pontoshe scales from 2-C feats yes, but those feats don't have a quantifiable way of scaling except from Hades. So it would be like Hades is 100x himself as hasty said
How many universes into 2-C is Pontos?I thought thanatos was 2-C for destroying the shields that tanked a blow from pontos
He’s rated as 2-C via being “Even the absolute weakest Titan can create a universe and all it encompasses from nothing, with little effort. Pontos himself is far more powerful than any Titan with the exception of Cronus, including immensely powerful Titans such as Coeus and Hyperion, viewing them as nothing but pawns under his control”How many universes into 2-C is Pontos?
Sounds reasonableouch.. thats gonna need some work later.. that description is a bit vague and doesn't really justify 2-C very well..
before establishing a multiplier for the comet first lets establish how many universes Hades has. it'll make the multiplier easier to numerate.
Yes elysium would be the lastThe 26 universes does make sense. The 25 places of hell, multiple of which are established to be universes, then elysium is the last?
the titans in G were in a weakened state fro the start. So cappign them at Universal in G is fair but their mythological selves were probably much stronger. We have yet to see a pontos go all out and use all his power and we lack context on who he is stronger than compared to the olympians.Since pontos profile basically explains nothing, I just assumed he was baseline
26 Universes and then a 100x multiplier. Yes, it might be a lowball but its the safest low end to go with since it has a direct statement imo.Right. So basically, the idea here was god cloth seiya = low multi, so comet fist should be 100x at worst, or at least 100,000,000x at best. this is where I’d get 100 mill x baseline hades from, which would scale to his ap through athena, and then some others. Hades supporting 26 unis would be a good alternative rating tho.
This is something on the wiki that has always confused meSimply being 100 millions times stronger than 2-C, is definitely not 2-B but rather just 100 millions times into whatever 2-C they are in, as crossing any sub tiers of 2-C is not possible with a multiplier.
The logic is basically that we dont know the distance of the space between the universes, like how large they are, so while we know that 2 universes is 2 times the quantity of 1 universe, we don't know the gap between the universes so which is why its unquantifiable. Since we dont know the size of space between the universes, which is why we just have to assume that space is unquantifiable in size hence no amount of multiplier is really treated as enough to cross from 1 universe to another. Thats why its like that. It will likely remain that way unless we somehow find a way to measure the distance of space between universes or find better solutions to quantify the gap.This is something on the wiki that has always confused me
Somehow 100million times above 26 Universes is still < 27 Universes by a LARGE amount.
This logic in confusing....
I believe its because the wiki considers universes as being aligned along the 5th dimensional axis, not that they are separated by 5th dimensional space, so meaning destroying universes doesn't have to affect 5th dimensional axis in anyway, just cross the space in between the universes. Either way 5D space wont be Low 1-C unless its shows reallty-fiction difference or greater than infinity difference and all.What I was always confused about was how the space between universes is 5D, and we can't use multipliers to jump in tier 2 due to the fact destroying the 5D space is unquantifiable.
So why does low 1-C exist if tier 2 characters are already destroying 5D space?
Either way 5D space wont be Low 1-C unless its shows reallty-fiction difference or greater than infinity difference and all.
So, what exactly is wrong with my argument for hades being 100mill times Seiyas ap? Or do you agree, cos I saw you agreed with hasty, who was disagreeing, but is now neutralThis is something on the wiki that has always confused me
Somehow 100million times above 26 Universes is still < 27 Universes by a LARGE amount.
This logic in confusing....
I thought some people were thinking it would reach into 2-BSo, what exactly is wrong with my argument for hades being 100mill times Seiyas ap? Or do you agree, cos I saw you agreed with hasty, who was disagreeing, but is now neutral
Summary: Hades tanked a attack from God cloth seiya, the specific technique that seiya used, takes the amount of punches that seiya can perform in a second, and uses That as a multiplier for one punch. Thus, when seiya could punch 100 times a second, this technique had a multiplier of 100x. 7th sense seiya scales in speed to beings who can punch 100 million times a second. Thus, 7th sense seiya would have a 100 million times multiplier for his technique.
Is this summary ok?I thought some people were thinking it would reach into 2-B
tbh it just sounds weird being 100million times above 26 universes but below 27 universes
anyways we should write a summary and contact staff again.
Barely knowing the verse, Hasty makes sense to me. The multiplier stuff also seems... Somewhat Sus. 100 million is a gigantic multiplier.
Well, I got Unshakes support now, plus I summarized the arguments better. Would you guys mind another look to see if changed your minds?yyyeaaah, with the sheer size of the multiplier I don't think the evidence is sufficient, sorry
this is the beginning of the summary.Summary: Hades tanked a attack from God cloth seiya, the specific technique that seiya used, takes the amount of punches that seiya can perform in a second, and uses That as a multiplier for one punch. Thus, when seiya could punch 100 times a second, this technique had a multiplier of 100x. 7th sense seiya scales in speed to beings who can punch 100 million times a second. Thus, 7th sense seiya would have a 100 million times multiplier for his technique.